Fuschia 213 Mod. Safety concerns.

[Zeccheus]

Does anyone know of a vaping Mod that is PROVEN to be safe? I just bought my first Mod today- it's the Sigelei Fuschia 213 (80 watts) and the guy gave me a pair of LG HG2 18650 batteries. I was reading online and found a couple stories where those exact batteries had exploded (one of them was in Bentonville, AR) so now I'm very paranoid about the whole thing. I know most of these incidents happen because of user error and/or involve Mechanical Mods. I haven't heard a story yet about a regular Mod exploding.

I also don't know anything about configuring the settings on this Fuschia 213 and I want to make sure its as safe as possible. Right now the temperature is at 472 Fahrenheit, is that even safe?? I also don't know if all the parts are compatible. For instance, the tank is a Kangertech and I have no idea what the coil is. But I know compatibility between the coil and the unit's temperature can cause problems. Also, is Sigelei even a trustworthy brand? I read that you should only buy mods made in the USA.

I would also like to know about wattage and what wattage I should be using with this particular Mod/ battery. My main concern here, however, is the battery. Making sure I have the right (safe) one. As well as configuring my Mod to prevent any explosions. I have done alot of research and I know all the dos and dont's concerning use of an 18650 battery. So I'm pretty well-read in that department. What I need help with is the specifics on how to use this device.

If anyone can help me out some of these issues/ technicalities I would be eternally grateful. Thanks.

 

[Mr Ripple]

18650's don't usually spontaneously combust without some kind of user error.
You say you have read about them so should be ok.
Reading you should only buy mods in the USA wasn't on a US website by any chance?
I know nothing about your mod but it looks like you have it in temp mode.
If it changes to watts then change it sharpish before trying to power your tank.
The coils will have recommend wattage settings on so start at the lowest setting first.

 

[Mitz]

HG2 are good batteries. Your mod is regulated so don't worry too much. You can use any tank that fits on the mod. Make sure you only use appropriate temp control coils in temp control mode and only use wattage mode for coils meant for wattage mode. The coils will say on them their wattage range. Start at the lowest and work your way up till you find what you like not exceeding the maximun recommendation.

If you don't know what the coil you're using now is then you better well have a LOOK. It will say on the coil. Only use temp control mode for Ni/ Ti/ SS. NiChrome and Clapton should only be used in wattage mode. It's Kanger so it will say on the coil. You can also take the coil out and look at the rubber ring at the bottom of the coil. Different types of coil have different colour bands.

316 SUS aka SS = Pink = temp control mode OR wattage mode.
Ni200 = Blue = temp control mode
NiChrome = Red = wattage mode
Clapton = Black = wattage mode

Sigelei is a perfectly good and respectable brand.

EDITED: To show SS can be used in temp mode and wattage mode.

 

[dazza43]

Sigelei is one of the top brands in the vaping world along with Innokin,Smok,Joyetech,KangertechAspire ,and many more.Yes they are made in China,but the quality is excellent.Chiba is becoming the new Japan in terms of manufacturing.Go on the pbusardo YouTube channel and watch some of his factory visits to China. I think the Americans think a lot of the products are made in sheds,lol.

 

[Zeccheus]

18650's don't usually spontaneously combust without some kind of user error.
You say you have read about them so should be ok.
Reading you should only buy mods in the USA wasn't on a US website by any chance?
I know nothing about your mod but it looks like you have it in temp mode.
If it changes to watts then change it sharpish before trying to power your tank.
The coils will have recommend wattage settings on so start at the lowest setting first.

 

[Zeccheus]

18650's don't usually spontaneously combust without some kind of user error.
You say you have read about them so should be ok.
Reading you should only buy mods in the USA wasn't on a US website by any chance?
I know nothing about your mod but it looks like you have it in temp mode.
If it changes to watts then change it sharpish before trying to power your tank.
The coils will have recommend wattage settings on so start at the lowest setting first.

"Temp mode" No it's in wattage mode (I set it to 17 today because I specifically asked for a coil that went that low. The guy replaced it- the original one started at 30 watts which I believe is too high for this model) but when I hold the button and go into settings I can see the temperature and it's at a steady 472F. Doesn't that seem a bit high?

Mitz. How do you know it's a regulated mod and what does that mean exactly? Does that mean I never have to mess with the settings? BTW this is a Fuchai 213 Mini, the one with 80 watts, not the other Fuchai that has 213 watts.

 

[zouzounaki]

Don't worry about it being made in China. I think a lot of people are a bit racist towards the Chinese. Maybe it's Trump supporters telling you to buy US made shit, ignore them.

 

[fasteddy]

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Mitz. How do you know it's a regulated mod and what does that mean exactly? Does that mean I never have to mess with the settings? BTW this is a Fuchai 213 Mini, the one with 80 watts, not the other Fuchai that has 213 watts.

It means the mod has built in circuitry to keep you safe.
Basically, it won't fire if the resistance is too low, if there's a short somewhere or if the batteries are too low.

 

[Zeccheus]

Mitz- Yeah the coil is a Kangertech 10W-25W with a red band. I'm not sure what Ni/ Ti/ SS means.

So basically, since this is a regulated mod there's no additional settings I need to change?

 

[Tubbyengineer]

Mitz- Yeah the coil is a Kangertech 10W-25W with a red band. I'm not sure what Ni/ Ti/ SS means.

So basically, since this is a regulated mod there's no additional settings I need to change?

Right I think the first thing you need to do is READ THE MANUAL...
Next, Coil Types: Ni Is Nickel or Ni200, Ti Is Titanium or Ti01, These coil types must only be used in Temperature control mode. SS is Stainless Steel - usually SS316, This coil type is the only one that can be used in both Temperature control and Wattage (Power) modes. NiCr or Nichrome, Ka or Kanthal, Clapton - all these coils must only be used in wattage mode.

Regulated Mod = Has electronics inside it, usually a display screen too, the internal circuitry will protect you from the worst excesses of stupidity or bad luck and will not allow the mod to fire if theres a short circuit in the atomiser or if the batteries are too discharged.
Mechanical Mod = Basically a metal tube or a box that connects the battery directly to the atomiser with just a press switch to control it - there are no safety systems and no settings - You need to know exactly what you are doing to use one, the result of not knowing is "Exploding Batteries" - which dont really explode they vent hot gas to prevent them exploding but badly designed or built mech mods can buld up that pressure insted of releasing it - with exactly the same effext as over filling a balloon.

Batteries, there are articles posted on here about battery safety and I'll include a document for you to read that will explain all about batteries - But the basics are - Batteries have safe discharge currents, if you exceed those limits bad things happen - Usually those limits are exceeded by user error, often by people keeping batteries loose in their pockets with keys and change, all of which will cause a short circuit and cause the battery to vent. Don't use damaged batteries, and don't leave batteries unattended while charging.

Learn how to use the mod, read the manual thouroughly and learn what the settings mean, once you've done that you'll understand whether you're in Power or Temperature Control mode, you'll know how to change the settings and what to do to turn things on or off and how to lock the buttons to prevent accidental changes or firing.

A brief explanation of -
Power mode:
Power mode is extremely simple, when you connect your atomiser the device reads the resistance of the coil, then you set a wattage you want to vape at using the Up / Down buttons. The mod then applies an appropriate amount of voltage to the coil every time you press the fire button.
The wattage you select will affect how hot the coil gets, more watts means more heat. Bigger heavier coils with thicker wires require more power to get hot - this is why lower resistance coils usually require more power - they may not vape any hotter but they will need more power. (For example a 1.2 ohm coil may begin to taste burnt at say 20 watts but a 0.5 Ohm coil might only be slightly warm at 20w).

Temperature control Mode:
Temperature control mode also called TC for short. Starts in the same way that Power mode does - by reading the resistance of the coil when you connect it - the main difference being that the coil must be at room temperature when you connect it and read that resistance. Once you've got the resistance set then you need to pick a temperature to vape at ( I use 445f but personal preference may vary). Once you've done that you can also set a wattage (On most mods - however some deal with wattage entirely by themselves in TC) the wattage should be high enough that the mod can get up to temperature quickly. When you press the fire button the mod applies power to the coil and monitors it to see how its resistance is changing - that change of resistance lets the mod know what temperature the coil is at (The rate of change is different for different metals which is why you need to select the right TC Mode). Once the coil has reached the set temperature the mod will then automatically vary the power to maintain that temperature.

A word of warning - TC is not infallible, the wrong setting, or connecting a warm atomiser can distort the temperature readings so you might get extra hot or no vapour at all depending on the mistake. Also some mods do TC better than others...

Once you've read the manual, and this post have a play with the mod - if theres anything you still need help with come back and ask, we'll do our best to help...