IJOY 20700 - What's happening?

[Ben fogstar]

Official statement released via IJOY Technology Facebook an hour ago :


Important Announcement

This is a message for our consumers to understand in regards to the production and changes we are making to our batteries.

First of all, very grateful to mooch for testing our products, as well as thumb up to the performance of the IJOY 20700 battery. The recent 20700 battery indeed exist in two versions, one is the sold separately version, one is the free included in kit version.

Since the start of 2016’ IJOY has spent a lot of effort developing the 20700 batteries for the next generation of vaping products. The 18650 has been the dominate industry standard of battery for almost 3 consecutive years. We took it upon ourselves to aim for a better battery and standards for the industry. Our aim was a success, able to meet the industry standards and have a great acceptance in the vaping community. We provided the community with over half a million 20700 batteries at below cost and have since not been able to keep up with production due to demand.

Also we have experienced a flux in battery material costs and are now unable to keep the price from fluctuating with the battery cost as well. The issue was providing the market with a battery that was still affordable and just as reliable. The 20700 batteries we were providing in our product kits have had a type of 5 leg top contact which we are no longer providing in our product kits, but will be sold separately. While we still want to provide our customers with our batteries in our kits we have made a economical standard 4leg top contact instead, which is just as stable and reliable. These batteries will be provided to our customers inside the kits for free. There are now two different types of batteries that we are now providing to you as our consumers. The differences will be the label and the leg top contacts. Please rest assure that these batteries are our own and are still as stable as our originals. As you all know the Vaping industry is extremely fast paced and our goal is to make a more stable and successful vaping experience. We were unable to make the different wraps in time and our 4 leg batteries were wrapped with the original wraps.

We humbly apologize for any confusion there might have been during this time.
Please accept our apologies on behalf of all of us here at IJOY, we hope you understand, to our fans and vaping community, thank you for your continued support.


We at Fogstar, and many others are aware of the cost of the cell IJOY are using, and the 'not making any money' thing is a little bit of BS. The idea that they 'didn't have the wrap in time' doesn't sit well with me either. If you don't have the wrap - don't sell them. Sounds like an excuse to me, I think they've tried it - got called out by Mooch - and used that story.

Seems standalone cells will be unaffected for now - so if you have the option of opting for a kit without cells included - that seems the better option.

Ben
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[WardyGTC]

It looks like they tried to sneak a cheaper battery in under the radar and got caught out. A bit naive of them to think the likes of Mooch and yourselves weren't going to notice.

So they're going to be selling the better battery separately and putting the not as good one in with their kits. Makes sense on a business level, improves profitability on kits and strictly speaking they're under no obligation to provide the best possible battery with the kit. How often have you bought electrical goods with batteries included and they're almost always cheap and nasty.

As long as all the cells they are providing are stable and safe I don't think consumers have anything to complain about. Just a case of choosing which option you want as you said Ben.

 

[Ben fogstar]

Yeah - It's a good thing for us, as i'm sure people will want the better cells. Just could of been done better.

 

[Myashey]

I don't understand why they have to have two versions. Surely it is good business practice to give your customers the best product at the best price, if that means putting the price up on the product by a couple of dollars is in the consumers and manufacturers interest? Otherwise the old adage comes into play - buy cheap, buy twice - which is not in anybody's interest.

 

[Ment]

The lower quality batteries are presumably intended to be used only in the devices they are supplied with and, running in pairs, would be safe with most builds.

The chips should also be advanced enough to cut out should the batteries be overstretched, so I don't think there's anything wrong with what Ijoy are doing.