Japanese research (super toxic ecig 10x worry cancer)?

[Cabbo]

E-cigarettes have 10 times more carcinogens, say researchers - Times LIVE

Weird that the exact same wording is used in this article as in every other article about the new research (which we know nothing about, obviously)

"E-cigarettes contain up to 10 times the amount of cancer-causing agents as regular tobacco, Japanese scientists said Thursday, the latest blow to an invention once heralded as less harmful than smoking."

Edit: looks like they super-heated the coils to get an absolute worst-case scenario. Equivalent of using toxicology reports from a lit cigarette filter.

 

[cheersm8]

Well, I read it, and all that I really got out of it was that a report had been submitted, but that Nobody was available to confirm the report.
Was it all a dream? Nobody knows, and nobody ever will know, the scare mongery has been done, so I doubt that Times Media will have a need for any follow up.

 

[Diche]

This is why we need Dr Farsalinos to get his study off the ground. At least we can rely on him to use real world scenarios in his testing not attempt to bias the results by testing the wrong thing.

 

[knome]

The article is based on an item from TBS news (Tokyo Broadcasting Service). I suspect they've read the TBS article using Google translate and created a fucking monster. Daily Mail now running it.

 

[neo4516]

They do not state if it's e liquid or disposable ones I think they tested cheap Japanese and Chinese crap not the proper e juice with all natural contents.

 

[knome]

Farsalinos response...

E-cigarette aerosol contains 6 times LESS formaldehyde than tobacco cigarette smoke

 

[Diche]

Right so there is one shitty brand of Japanese ecig out there that has 6x less formaldehyde in it that cigarettes and if you look at the test figures produced an unreliable test because the +/- is nearly as high as the actual reported figure. Joy!

 

[knome]

if you look at the test figures produced an unreliable test because the +/- is nearly as high as the actual reported figure. Joy!

I just noticed some of the +/-'s are higher than the reported figures. Statistically, I haven't a clue how that works.

 

[Diche]

I'm guessing, but if you test something 10 times and come out with wildly different figures, the average of those figures would be the reported result. But the +/- would be high. I'm not a scientist, but that would be the only way it makes sense to me

 

[knome]

I'm guessing, but if you test something 10 times and come out with wildly different figures, the average of those figures would be the reported result. But the +/- would be high. I'm not a scientist, but that would be the only way it makes sense to me

I checked and it's standard deviation which can be higher than the mean/average if the range of results is large.