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yappycat

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Decided to give making my own Masala Chai concentrate a shot...if it works I'm hoping to use it to create a decent Masala Chai Latte juice...hoping lol Working on pure guesswork atm - whacked a MC teabag into a glass of AG (would have used pure PG if I'd had it but I don't so necessity is the mother of invention here ;) ) have it stood in a pan of simmering water atm. This pic was taken after about 10 mins or so and the AG is changing colour very nicely there, just wondered if anyone else has used a similar method to make their own concentrate and if so how long did you simmer it for?


Also any suggestions on adding the 'latte' element to the juice I can add my concentrate to (if it works that is) would be very welcome. I was thinking some kind of creamy/milky sweetened base...sweet cream? dairy milk? Maybe use brown sugar concentrate to sweeten? Or do you think I should get my hands on some Ethyl Maltol for the sweetness instead? Any suggestions from other mixologists out there would be very welcome!!
 

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not sure if it'll be that concentrated mind perhaps best vaped straight with something like condensed milk concentrate added
 
Check out a thread called "concentrating on concentrates" by @Chegs, might give you some tips/pointers.
PG is used because it absorbs flavour far better than vg/ag.
 
Just tasted on a freshly wicked coil after only 3 days steeping and it's not bad at all!! The creams are gonna need at least 2 more weeks I think before they come out fully and then I can figure out how much less I need to sweeten (I know I overused on the sweet stuff here, dunno why I went with such high %s off the bat) but I'm optimistic about this...I'm also bloody amazed it was even remotely vapable :D

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Thats a nice looking recipe!!
Thanks, I'm just amazed that my homemade concentrate worked at all - I checked out the thread @Jugg1es mentioned and my method was pretty close to what was used there, 'cept it would have been better to simmer in PG not VG but I knew that already. If this works out even halfway decent I think I'll have a crack at making my own coffee concentrate too, I know there's loads of those available anyway but I'm curious to see how it turns out :)
 
Thanks, I'm just amazed that my homemade concentrate worked at all - I checked out the thread @Jugg1es mentioned and my method was pretty close to what was used there, 'cept it would have been better to simmer in PG not VG but I knew that already. If this works out even halfway decent I think I'll have a crack at making my own coffee concentrate too, I know there's loads of those available anyway but I'm curious to see how it turns out :)


Its an interesting side to the DIY juices that I never even considered, & its making me wonder what sort of concentrates I could create myself.

What else have you got in mind?
 
Its an interesting side to the DIY juices that I never even considered, & its making me wonder what sort of concentrates I could create myself.

What else have you got in mind?

I'd prefer just to buy 'name' concentrates tbh as you're pretty much guaranteed that they'll be vape safe but I couldn't find a masala chai concentrate that looked remotely like what I was after, there's loads of chai concs and recipes for adding a billion spicy concentrates to emulate masala chai but again none of them had enough good reviews to give me any confidence in them. Teapigs Chai 'tea-temples' are spot on taste wise for me as a drink so thats what prompted the intial experiment. Thing is you need to think about the potential oil content in whatever flavour you're trying to extract - there's some discussion of this in the thread by @Chegs that @Jugg1es mentioned. And I believe some things will require some thing alcohol or solvent to extract the flavours effectively but I'm really not scientifically minded enough to get in that deeply. So if you do decide to make your own concentrates then be aware of that and I'd advise you use them at low %s in recipes and don't like chainvape them all day for a week lol. I'm gonna go drop some of my concentrate into some water to see if I can determine if it contains much oil from the spices in the teabag, shoulda done that first but I didn't really expect it to work at all tbh.

Edit: here's the link to that thread, I never filtered my extraction in any way as it had no 'bits' in it to filter out that I could see, but maybe I should have - time will tell :)
https://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/...eads/concentrating-on-diy-concentrates.54933/
 
Gotta say @yappycat, this is fascinating. I shall be watching your endeavors with interest. Bravo!! :clapping::clapping::clapping:

(But I don't think I shall be experimenting at the moment.....maybe later though :D)
 
I've just checked the concentrate out - been sitting undisturbed in a box so I wanted to see if it had separated at all - was 'frothy' at the top but that might be more to do with it being mainly AG, all the ejuices I have steeping atm that I made with AG and negligible amounts of PG have a 'frothy' look to them. What would have concerned me would have been an oily layer at the top but nothing. Put some directly into water and there was no sign of oil droplets and no oily sheen to the water so it looks pretty much 100% water soluble which is good :)
 
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