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Regurgitation is ever present in this biz we call vape....biz..?.... we see it constantly especially with the Shenzhen big hitters such as Smok, IJoy etc......a new toy will be released...what feels like.... every few seconds... leaving vapers worldwide bewildered with the overwhelming choice being 'spewed' out to our ever eager grabby little hands...
However ....I think people tend to forget that these vast swathes of vape manufacturers are in fact 'businesses' and not services that we are entitled to.....it's aaaaall about the dollar baby, and no amount of raised eyebrows and screams of "WHY DID YOU MAKE ME BUY THIS?!!" will slow this eastern torrent of electronica.....and why?.....Because we....the vaping public....have given them the perception that all vapers....have deep pockets.... and an almost feverish 'Shinyitus' that just simply... can never be satiated.....and there is probably more than an element of truth in that...
You wannit.....they'll sell it to ya....simple as that, and we will buy anything that is marketed well enough.....however...there are two sides to this, on one side we have companies that clearly do regurgitate the same formula over and over again, putting the same chip, same internals, same format...in a slightly different body....and passing it off as 'new'....because they know full well that those kind of vapers that need the newest fashionable 'thang'...will buy it ....and then there's the other kind of company, the companies that have frankly laughable quality control and bring out a device that is so flawed it's almost as if they never actually tried it for themselves prior to release...or did...knew full well it was shit...and simply marketed the fuck out of it knowing full well that again....once vapers eyes are drawn into this new 'shiny' precious...they will simply be powerless to resist...
Safe in the knowledge that once they have sold millions of the shit boxes they can always wait a bit....make an updated model with all issues fixed....and then you'll buy that one too....double bubble bonus...
Which leads me to what I am reviewing today....kind of....in the usual roundabout kind of vagueish manner that you have all undoubtedly become accustomed to .....
Let's crack on....
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Welcome back my fruity little fog muffins, on this particular occasion I am going to start by absolutely definitely NOT mentioning a certain little shout out that happened on Vaping with Vic's show last weekend......because people will almost EXPECT me to harp on about it and if I did that would make me an incredibly sad little person who could well be accused of milking his ten minutes of fame so....don't worry...it's all water under the bridge now, yesterday's news as they say, and ah.....ahhhh....ahhhhhhhh CHOO!
Pugsley milks his ten minues of fame for all that it's worth regardless of what he says he's not going to do
Oh dear.....I appear to have sneezed a link right onto the page there....tut...that's just not coming off....oh well...we'll overlook it and briskly move on.....lots of terrible cold viruses around this time of year....
ANYWAY ...today, we are looking at a device that just might make you think ...'haven't we already had that?' .... and you'd be justified in thinking so...because technically we have.....
Courtesy of a new sponsor within the Steampugs stable...Vapesourcing , I present to you the Wismec Sinuous Ravage 230 Kit.
That's right....it's an updated Predator.
The Lowdown (Mod)
The Ravage230 is a 200w dual 18650 device that incorporates a comprehensive suite of settings that pretty much covers all aspects of vaping seen over the last 12 months and puts them in a super compact zinc alloy body with a full length trigger bar .... alllll very familiar....you may well of changed your name...but you sir...are a Predator V2....now here lies the issue, the Predator....for me personally (I know there are still die hard fans out there) was one of the worst devices I have ever had the misfortune of owning, how this thing left the factory in quite such a bizarre state of poor quality...is beyond me....mine lasted 4 weeks....and I've heard plenty of similar stories across the board, my guess?....rushed out, they went toe to toe with the Alien which was already arguably the biggest selling device on the market...and it just wasn't tested properly...or.....at all.....and as a result.....the Alien took the Predators head clean off...
Even now, everytime I go into one of my local vape shops the Alien is still on display and selling hand over fist...the Predator...nowhere to be seen.....love it or hate it....you can't deny the Alien's success.
Regardless.....that was then...and this is now...the after sales flack thrown towards the Predator I'm sure is something Jon 'Sinuous' Fairbanks would much rather forget as he went back to the drawing board.....and decided that just simply a name change...wasn't going to cut it....and the Ravage230 was born.
So what's new?.....Well.....practically everything....thankfully, a step away from the usual trend of serving the same innards in a slightly different body.....Sinuous and Wismec have opted for a top to toe refit in a body that...well..looks almost the same......it almost feels like an apology....'OK we fucked it......we actually meant to do this'
Hmm...whatevs...
The first and most obvious change to the device is the chip and more precisely, the all new full colour 1.45 inch display which I am genuinely a big fan of...
Everything you need to know displayed in a clear and easy to read manner, just the way a display should be, it's also very sharp. You can if you like just have the time planted in the centre and your wattage down in the corner but....who really looks at their mod to tell the time....oddly...that's still the job of your phone....easy to switch though, as is all of it, you have options of what you would like to have displayed.....all very easy to work out in the menu system which is accessible with a simple 3 clicks.
Quite simply...the full package, TC which apparently is very accurate...I mean what do I know right?...But I did do some research and apparently people with 'TCcheckographs' (yeah....it's a thing...tut) said it was very....TC like...(shrugs) VW & TCR obviously then settings in TC for Ni, SS & Ti......no power curve but it does have a pre heat function in there....and....check this....an OPTIONAL auto shut off.....fuck me sideways that's never gonna see the light of day but still....at least it's OPTIONAL......It will literally take you several short seconds to find your way around this menu system, it's a very good system...and very well executed.
Another new nice touch is this little cheeky monkey...
Pugsley's 10 minutes of fame that he clearly just can't let go of...
WTF is that doing there??......jeez people should really learn to tidy up around here....leaving links just lying around all over the place.....awful behaviour....THIS is what I meant to show you.....
This little button sat all unassuming at the top of the trigger has two jobs.....firstly it switches your display on and off, very handy for those times when you don't want to be seen...in the dark....billowing clouds of vapor....?? (bit weird)....but also, this acts as the back button for the menu system....the trigger bar being the 'confirm' button...easy peasy....lemon fucking squeezy...I like this button.... not a new idea, the G-Priv had the same thing, although on the G-Priv you could lock the device by keeping it down for 2 seconds....so this is....half....of a good idea....that was out over a year ago...(sigh) .... 'A' for effort though.
Another new 'FML they actually listened' moment comes when you look at the spring loaded 510....
Not shown particularly well on my picture (amature) but the 510 on the Ravage230 is CENTERED....(gasp) ...such a good thing it deserves capitals....and it will accomodate 28mm tops without overhang .....couldn't have added a 2 measly millimeters then eh......still....I'll take it, my beloved Sherman RDA will sit happily without any drama....the thing I don't like about this design of 510 is the perfectly flush fitment, instead of being slightly raised it's actually sunken, so you will get tank rash on the top of your mod....these pics were taken fresh out of the box and if you look closely you will see that it's already becoming apparent with screwing the included tank on and off only 2 or 3 times.... on the plus side though...the 510 didn't come out despite my best efforts to force it....which is something new for Wismec....
Batteries are dealt with in the normal fashion.....
However ....I think people tend to forget that these vast swathes of vape manufacturers are in fact 'businesses' and not services that we are entitled to.....it's aaaaall about the dollar baby, and no amount of raised eyebrows and screams of "WHY DID YOU MAKE ME BUY THIS?!!" will slow this eastern torrent of electronica.....and why?.....Because we....the vaping public....have given them the perception that all vapers....have deep pockets.... and an almost feverish 'Shinyitus' that just simply... can never be satiated.....and there is probably more than an element of truth in that...
You wannit.....they'll sell it to ya....simple as that, and we will buy anything that is marketed well enough.....however...there are two sides to this, on one side we have companies that clearly do regurgitate the same formula over and over again, putting the same chip, same internals, same format...in a slightly different body....and passing it off as 'new'....because they know full well that those kind of vapers that need the newest fashionable 'thang'...will buy it ....and then there's the other kind of company, the companies that have frankly laughable quality control and bring out a device that is so flawed it's almost as if they never actually tried it for themselves prior to release...or did...knew full well it was shit...and simply marketed the fuck out of it knowing full well that again....once vapers eyes are drawn into this new 'shiny' precious...they will simply be powerless to resist...
Safe in the knowledge that once they have sold millions of the shit boxes they can always wait a bit....make an updated model with all issues fixed....and then you'll buy that one too....double bubble bonus...
Which leads me to what I am reviewing today....kind of....in the usual roundabout kind of vagueish manner that you have all undoubtedly become accustomed to .....
Let's crack on....
.........................................................................................................................
Welcome back my fruity little fog muffins, on this particular occasion I am going to start by absolutely definitely NOT mentioning a certain little shout out that happened on Vaping with Vic's show last weekend......because people will almost EXPECT me to harp on about it and if I did that would make me an incredibly sad little person who could well be accused of milking his ten minutes of fame so....don't worry...it's all water under the bridge now, yesterday's news as they say, and ah.....ahhhh....ahhhhhhhh CHOO!
Pugsley milks his ten minues of fame for all that it's worth regardless of what he says he's not going to do
Oh dear.....I appear to have sneezed a link right onto the page there....tut...that's just not coming off....oh well...we'll overlook it and briskly move on.....lots of terrible cold viruses around this time of year....
ANYWAY ...today, we are looking at a device that just might make you think ...'haven't we already had that?' .... and you'd be justified in thinking so...because technically we have.....
Courtesy of a new sponsor within the Steampugs stable...Vapesourcing , I present to you the Wismec Sinuous Ravage 230 Kit.
That's right....it's an updated Predator.
The Lowdown (Mod)
The Ravage230 is a 200w dual 18650 device that incorporates a comprehensive suite of settings that pretty much covers all aspects of vaping seen over the last 12 months and puts them in a super compact zinc alloy body with a full length trigger bar .... alllll very familiar....you may well of changed your name...but you sir...are a Predator V2....now here lies the issue, the Predator....for me personally (I know there are still die hard fans out there) was one of the worst devices I have ever had the misfortune of owning, how this thing left the factory in quite such a bizarre state of poor quality...is beyond me....mine lasted 4 weeks....and I've heard plenty of similar stories across the board, my guess?....rushed out, they went toe to toe with the Alien which was already arguably the biggest selling device on the market...and it just wasn't tested properly...or.....at all.....and as a result.....the Alien took the Predators head clean off...
Even now, everytime I go into one of my local vape shops the Alien is still on display and selling hand over fist...the Predator...nowhere to be seen.....love it or hate it....you can't deny the Alien's success.
Regardless.....that was then...and this is now...the after sales flack thrown towards the Predator I'm sure is something Jon 'Sinuous' Fairbanks would much rather forget as he went back to the drawing board.....and decided that just simply a name change...wasn't going to cut it....and the Ravage230 was born.
So what's new?.....Well.....practically everything....thankfully, a step away from the usual trend of serving the same innards in a slightly different body.....Sinuous and Wismec have opted for a top to toe refit in a body that...well..looks almost the same......it almost feels like an apology....'OK we fucked it......we actually meant to do this'
Hmm...whatevs...
The first and most obvious change to the device is the chip and more precisely, the all new full colour 1.45 inch display which I am genuinely a big fan of...
Everything you need to know displayed in a clear and easy to read manner, just the way a display should be, it's also very sharp. You can if you like just have the time planted in the centre and your wattage down in the corner but....who really looks at their mod to tell the time....oddly...that's still the job of your phone....easy to switch though, as is all of it, you have options of what you would like to have displayed.....all very easy to work out in the menu system which is accessible with a simple 3 clicks.
Quite simply...the full package, TC which apparently is very accurate...I mean what do I know right?...But I did do some research and apparently people with 'TCcheckographs' (yeah....it's a thing...tut) said it was very....TC like...(shrugs) VW & TCR obviously then settings in TC for Ni, SS & Ti......no power curve but it does have a pre heat function in there....and....check this....an OPTIONAL auto shut off.....fuck me sideways that's never gonna see the light of day but still....at least it's OPTIONAL......It will literally take you several short seconds to find your way around this menu system, it's a very good system...and very well executed.
Another new nice touch is this little cheeky monkey...
Pugsley's 10 minutes of fame that he clearly just can't let go of...
WTF is that doing there??......jeez people should really learn to tidy up around here....leaving links just lying around all over the place.....awful behaviour....THIS is what I meant to show you.....
This little button sat all unassuming at the top of the trigger has two jobs.....firstly it switches your display on and off, very handy for those times when you don't want to be seen...in the dark....billowing clouds of vapor....?? (bit weird)....but also, this acts as the back button for the menu system....the trigger bar being the 'confirm' button...easy peasy....lemon fucking squeezy...I like this button.... not a new idea, the G-Priv had the same thing, although on the G-Priv you could lock the device by keeping it down for 2 seconds....so this is....half....of a good idea....that was out over a year ago...(sigh) .... 'A' for effort though.
Another new 'FML they actually listened' moment comes when you look at the spring loaded 510....
Not shown particularly well on my picture (amature) but the 510 on the Ravage230 is CENTERED....(gasp) ...such a good thing it deserves capitals....and it will accomodate 28mm tops without overhang .....couldn't have added a 2 measly millimeters then eh......still....I'll take it, my beloved Sherman RDA will sit happily without any drama....the thing I don't like about this design of 510 is the perfectly flush fitment, instead of being slightly raised it's actually sunken, so you will get tank rash on the top of your mod....these pics were taken fresh out of the box and if you look closely you will see that it's already becoming apparent with screwing the included tank on and off only 2 or 3 times.... on the plus side though...the 510 didn't come out despite my best efforts to force it....which is something new for Wismec....
Batteries are dealt with in the normal fashion.....
