Radio 5 Live today (Shelagh Fogarty)

[robteifi]

Extended piece on e-cigs, with emphasis on schools

"The National Association of Headteachers has voted to ban all electronic cigarettes from schools for both pupils and adults. But can they help young smokers kick the habit?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03szmjt/Shelagh_Fogarty_04_02_2014/ from about 19:50 in.

Katherine Devlin of ECITA on it some time, but still listening, so not sure when yet.

 

[robteifi]

Just to warn people, Linda McAvan is also on the programme!

 

[Duffloop]

Just to warn people, Linda McAvan is also on the programme!

hey thanks for the heads up :-)

 

[LilyRed]

Rob, why did you make me listen to this, I'm already shouting at the radio at McAvan #madwomaninthehouse

Prof. Nutt is wonderful though

As for this week’s current anti-vaping stance “won’t they think of the children, gateway to smoking” argument, I'm actually very curious to know how many school age children are using e-cigs such as 1st gen cig-alikes containing nicotine and how many are actually using shisha sticks; the latter are currently club trendy, what big sis/bro i.e. peer group elders would be more likely to use, and if, as I suspect the media don't know the difference (or are more likely fudging the facts) the uptake of these should be investigated and treated independently from the use of cig-alikes and vaping devices.

I discussed vaping with my GP recently, told her how I’d researched it for a few months to reassure myself of the safety of this as the best method of NRT (and likely to be the most successful method for me) before starting. How I and most vapers are perfectly capable of self-titration of nicotine as well as investigating the origins and safety of the juices and mixing supplies we use, and how useful forums are for support and finding out about the latest research (and also how many vapers participate in scientific research projects by respected physicians such as Dr Farsalinos. She was not only very impressed at how well-informed most vapers are, but told me how more and more of the smokers – I should say ex-smokers – at the surgery are now refusing the standard NRT route and taking up vaping.

 

[Chegs]

http://www.sirvapes-a-lot.com/E-Liq...-As-FDA-Approved-Toddler-Training-Toothpaste/


All they need do to encounter the full 4 "toxins" in an e-liquid is feed the little so n so's some potatoes

 

[Vaped Crusader]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26036064

Getting all smokers to switch to electronic cigarettes would be the "greatest health advance since vaccinations," Professor David Nutt claims.

The former government drugs advisor said any side effects of using e-cigarettes would not be as harmful as smoking tobacco.

He told BBC Radio 5 live's Shelagh Fogarty: "I'm totally in favour of this kind of harm reduction approach."

"These electronic cigarettes should not be controlled as medicines - they should be controlled more lightly than cigarettes in order to encourage people to switch."

 

[LilyRed]

Vaped Crusader you should post that link as a new post in the "In The News" section of the forum!