Tsunami RDA build with 32/26 clapton

[vhascometo]

Hello guys, RDA noob here with silly questions.

I was looking to start slowly getting into RDAs so I bought meself a Tsunami and 32/26 clapton wire (not sure if that's the best wire for this, but that's what they recommended me in a shop and I really don't know all the differences at this stage).

So the first build was installed in the shop for me, the guy said he liked this one which was dual-coil 10wraps 3 ID, read at 0.7ohm. I really liked how it performed in terms of flavor and clouds but then my friend said that 0.7 and 10 wraps seem bit too high for an RDA like this, and I also usually see numbers like 0.2, 0.3, 0.4 when people describe their builds. Nevertheless I liked the performance but I am also wondering if that is a too high of resistance to vape on an RDA like this at around 80watts (it takes too long for me to heat up on something lower like 50w).

So then I was fiddling with changing cotton and accidentally broke the coil and decided to build my own! I did dual-coil 7 wrap 3 ID that read at 0.5 , and even if it was my very first coil it worked but I wasn't satisfied with the performance. The flavor seemed weaker (I guess because it's less wraps?) and the amount of clouds too and there was some spitting going on occasionally (I guess not enough cotton?).

So now I am thinking of a better coil to build, but I am really not sure if doing something like 5 wraps to get lower resistance will give me bigger clouds and decent flavor (didn't work with 7 wraps for me, well it was probably poorly made too), or do I need a different wire to make those less wrap coils perform good, and is that 0.7ohm 10wrap build a good idea after all? (isn't the resistance too high for something like this)

And what does ID give? I've got this coil building kit and it has other higher options like 3.5 and 4 ID, which I guess allows for more cotton to be used but does that result in bigger clouds or flavor?

Thank you so very much in advance.

 

[yappycat]

I'm not schooled in coil building so I won't go into that, but 10 wraps does seem like a lot and I was just messing about on Steam Engine there and can't for the life of me figure out how that build came out at 0.7 but I'm probs using the calculator wrong so ignore me there.
What I would say tho is that if you enjoyed the vape at 0.7 ohm then by all means aim for that on your builds, bugger what other people say about it. It's about what you enjoy not them. Maybe try a different type of wire that requires fewer wraps, more surface area on the coil is better for flavour I've been led to believe but as you say it also takes a lot more power to heat up a bigger coil. I'm sure someone cleverer than me will come along soon and give you a better idea

 

[EmbraSewerRat]

If you have the big coils on a high powered box mod then lowering resistance of the build won't really improve your experience - with that wire that is.
Low res and high power is a hold back to the days when mechs was all you had.
When I was using regulated gadgetry ( *shudders at thought*) a build of about 0.5/0.6 ohms with similar claptons was my sweet spot.

A larger coil will give you more surface area to use, ergo more cloudz bro. So if you want to use the 3.5mm coil winder thingummy, go for it. Y'll get a larger coil, more metal and more cloudz. But y'll need more power.
Cotton doesnae come into it for making fog, but do learn how to wick a coil properly that should reduce spitting.

Oh, and welcome aboard!

 

[vhascometo]

If you have the big coils on a high powered box mod then lowering resistance of the build won't really improve your experience - with that wire that is.
Low res and high power is a hold back to the days when mechs was all you had.
When I was using regulated gadgetry ( *shudders at thought*) a build of about 0.5/0.6 ohms with similar claptons was my sweet spot.

A larger coil will give you more surface area to use, ergo more cloudz bro. So if you want to use the 3.5mm coil winder thingummy, go for it. Y'll get a larger coil, more metal and more cloudz. But y'll need more power.
Cotton doesnae come into it for making fog, but do learn how to wick a coil properly that should reduce spitting.

Oh, and welcome aboard!

My main concern is safety I guess because I'm used to tanks with pre-built coils where a general rule of thumb was the lower the resistance - the higher the power it should be vaped at. So that's why i'm a bit cautious about vaping such higher resistance at a high power

 

[EmbraSewerRat]

My main concern is safety I guess because I'm used to tanks with pre-built coils where a general rule of thumb was the lower the resistance - the higher the power it should be vaped at. So that's why i'm a bit cautious about vaping such higher resistance at a high power

If the core of the Clapton was made wi' Stainless Steel, then you'll get a far lower resistance and you can chuck a frak ton of power thro' it. But it sounds like you've got kanthal cores, which can also take a lot of heat, but you do have a higher resistance reading. Nature of the materials.
I use Mechs so I'm using low resistance wires for my builds and the only issue I have is how damned awesome the experience is. I've made up big bastard SS coils for herself in her drippers, reading at about 0.4 ohms and she has no problems, apart fae me whinging about the HUUGE cloudz and having to make up lots of juice for her....
You are, of course, checking the res readings before firing the coils aye?

Well worth your time having a swatch at a coil building page like Steam engine. Pop some figures in and see what happens.
And if in doubt do ask away on here!!

 

[jacinabox]

Spooky given this subject has just come up...I've spent the last 3 hours messing around with a Tsunami and different coil materials and sizes.

I like to vape around 45w - 50w and found that anything over 3mm dia and 7/8 wraps of Kanthal 26/32 clapton in a dual build took ages to heat up, I tried stainless and Ni80 in various sizes and none did it for me.
Eventually went for 2.5mm dia, 7 wraps, 24g Kanthal spaced dual coil that came at around .37 ohms once it was bullied into shape, heated, strummed and spoken to nicely....for me, its perfect.

I'm sure that spacing the wraps was key; having said that what I'm sure of today will be tomorrow's head scratcher

Still, the fun and satisfaction is in the experimenting!

 

[x_reighted]

Hi. I know this thread is old but you're pretty much describing my daily setup. I usually try and put the same build in new rda's when i get them for a benchmark test. Took me ages to figure out a decent warm vape with a tonne of flavour and clouds to boot. Id started off with a 10wrap 0.7 you described but ive settled on 26/32 (n80 core with kanthal wrap) 3mm ID, 7 wrap. It ohms out at 0.53-0.55 every time. I vape this either on my noisy cricket or cuboid @ about 100watts.

I have a kit like you mention and the best thing i found for learning was buying a "starter" pack of wire from a reputable vendor and having a few days off work. I think i sat in the office and wrapped away for hours just experimenting. I watched hundreds of youtube videos and how-tos along with using steam-engine.org which i cant recommend enough.

In short.....the tsunami can easily take a 10 wrap clapton with those wires you mentioned (the tsunami 24 can definitely) ID means more wire and bigger build, so more power needed for vape you're after. I struggled to wick properly when i first started but found a decent "scottish roll" will suffice for most build and rda's. The tsunami can take alot of wick. I find if you do your normal scottish roll but split the wick in two its a dream (wick infront of the air holes and wick behind them in the centre of the rda) This also means you can drip away down the mouthpiece with no worries of leaking.

Sorry for rambling and repeating. Just wanted to share my thoughts