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[Dmg]

So After starting on 20mg nic salt based juice, which I enjoyed. I am trying different flavours, £1 juice which are free base nicotine ( think that's what is called) but finding the nicotine taste a bit rank , even though I dropped to 12mg.

Does the free base give you a better realisation of the nicotine intake, and the nic salt disguised it a bit ?
To start the transition from cigs to vape 20mg nic salt based juice worked well, but I don't want to raise my nicotine dependency, which I am worried the nic salts will do, but don't like the taste of the standard nic.

Where do I go from here?

Don't want to keep buying 10ml bottles due to cost.
So if I buy a short fill what nic shot should I buy and how much.

Also any suggestions on desrt flavours, I like pastry based with slight fruity taste not overloaded with cinnamon.

Cheers

 

[MrDJ]

shortfills were designed mainly for sub ohm vaping at low nic 3mg strength. add 1 x 18mg nic shot to a 50ml shortfill and it will make it 60ml at 3mg. you can get away with 6mg so 2 nic shots but of course they wont fit as they usually come with 50ml of zero nic so not enough space in the bottle. adding any more than 2 nic shots will dilute the flavour quite a lot.

higher nic above 9mg are best used at 50vg/50pg in a mouth to lung tank at low wattage. vg gives the clouds aand pg gives the throat hit. the higher the wattage the more throat hit.

im mainly into custards but prime vapes do a great selection of desserts and fruits.
other premium suppliers worth a look are cotswold vapour, colonel boom,manabush and supergood to name a few.

the cheaper end of the market check out LiQuid, drip drop, 88 vape, re juiced, vampire vapes.

hopefully others will give advice as well so this is worth bookmarking for future reference as all recommended by members POTV Vendors & Recommended E Liquid Suppliers

 

[Dmg]

can I add 1 20mg of nic salt to any short fill.
What wattage is best or does it depend on short fill, I am thinking 30 to 40 watts.

Am I right thinking that although its only 3mg, but because I am at higher wattage I have more nicotine intake offsetting the lower nic mg..
If you get my confused language...

 

[Dmg]

I have the standard pod??? That came with my voopoo drag2 , is this o.k or should I get something else.

Thanks

 

[ForestMagpie]

You can add nic salt to any shortfill but if you add 20mg to a shortfill is will be 3.33mg and not just 3mg. The higher the wattage the more is vaporised and so you inhale more, 3mg would not really offset against 20mg.
There is no recommended wattage for the shortfill, that's more to do with the coil and what you are comfortable with and what suits you.
The standard pod will be fine, it's more about the coil you will be using really.
I know you are worried about staying at 20mg but I don't understand why, I've been vaping 9 months and I still use 20mg salts in my rotation, I'd rather that than go back to smoking!
Whej you say you don't like the taste of freebase, is it possible that you've only used one brand of freebase and therefore it may be only their mixes you don't like? Have you tried a different brand to see if their freebase tastes better?

 

[LordOdin]

As already mentioned above plus taste is subjective. I like Vanilla based flavours or custards. A vanilla Custard from one Vendor isn't going to taste the same as a Vanilla Custard from another. It's the same for any e-liquid, i wouldn't waste Nic Salts just to up the Nicotine level of a Shortfill either. What i tend to do is have a few tanks all with different juice and vape them all at different times. I think vaping like i do makes sure you don't get Vapers Tongue as well. I have 2 Freebase @ 12mg and a 20mg Nic Salt on the go everyday. You will find you will not be hitting the Nic Salt as much the longer you go.

 

[MrDJ]

as said above.
you can add nic salts to shortfill but as said it will weaken the strength down to a fraction over 3mg.
will you start getting cravings again, well maybe yes, especially as youve just dropped from 20mg.

difficult for me to answer as ive been on 3mg for over 5 years.
i started on 18mg in mtl tank at 10--14w and gave up smoking overnight after 37 years of 20-30 cigs a day.
roughly a month later bought the first ever subohm tank which ran at at a whacking 25watts so dropped to 3mg and have stayed there ever ssince. i do chain vape every wakeing moment though and average 30-50ml vaped in a day and i havnt got cravings so for you to drop to 3mg will just be trial and error as no two people are the same so try it, and if it doesnt do it for you up your nic again.

 

[Dmg]

Thanks for your help.
Not had a temptation for the cigs since vaping this time round, and had a pouch of tobacco sitting next to me in my van the whole time.
Just didn't realise how much there is to learn with this stuff and how quickly it can eat away at your cash with the mistakes made.
I'm sure it will all be good once I settle with a short fill flavour as my main fall back.
And theres no price on your health..
Thanks again

 

[rew]

Thanks for your help.
Not had a temptation for the cigs since vaping this time round, and had a pouch of tobacco sitting next to me in my van the whole time.
Just didn't realise how much there is to learn with this stuff and how quickly it can eat away at your cash with the mistakes made.
I'm sure it will all be good once I settle with a short fill flavour as my main fall back.
And theres no price on your health..
Thanks again

Just keep asking questions on here and you'll get there.