Who's With Me, ( My Journal of my Vaping )

[P2PLeon]

@Richard Winter So, what is not a temporary timeframe for suggesting that I quit indefinitely?

 

[Richard Winter]

@Richard Winter So, what is not a temporary timeframe for suggesting that I quit indefinitely?

if your gonna quit then do it and I hope you do. Stopping for 2 or 3 days is not quitting.

 

[zouzounaki]

i think even quitting for a couple of weeks isn’t quitting if you’ve been doing this and relapsing every time for decades. you need to focus on each day and stop worrying about dates, counting hours and suchlike. it isn’t helpful. don’t attach a big significance to the act of quitting smoking, just focus your energy on not having a fag when you want to have one. but this has been said before many times

 

[P2PLeon]

Make that 3 days 3 hours.

 

[Mitz]

Due to the length of time you've been trying to quit smoking Leon, maybe you could try a heated tobacco alternative. Maybe something like IQOS. I have a couple of friends who never really got on with vaping and went the heated tobacco route instead. It works for them and may be closer for you to a sensation of smoking compared to vaping. Just some food for thought.

 

[P2PLeon]

Heated tobacco is only 15 per cent less than the 100% tangible or hazardous compared to smoking completely.

 

[Mitz]

Heated tobacco is only 15 per cent less than the 100% tangible or hazardous compared to smoking completely.

That doesn't matter. It's about breaking the habit of smoking. Don't mean to be blunt Leon, but the fact of the matter is you're not quitting smoking. You're simply going 2, 3 or 5 days in between smoking. Saying something doesn't make it real. Only doing it makes it real. Vaping alone clearly isn't enough to keep you off the fags because you always go back to smoking after a few days for whatever reason. Boredom, habit, craving, being enabled, whatever. Bottom line is it all comes down to mindset. The longer that you abstain from something the easier it becomes to cement your resolve to not do it again. Breaking the habit is important. 3 to 5 days in between smoking is not breaking the habit, you're simply putting it on pause. If vaping alone isn't enough to keep you off the fags then I'd suggest trying another medium to try and help facilitate your transition away from smoking. The priority is to stop smoking. Once you've done that you'll find it easier to shift between alternatives, if that's what you want. So... if smoking to vaping isn't happening then maybe try smoking to a heated tobacco alternative first and then to vaping once you've broken the habit of smoking.

 

[zouzounaki]

That doesn't matter. It's about breaking the habit of smoking. Don't mean to be blunt Leon, but the fact of the matter is you're not quitting smoking. You're simply going 2, 3 or 5 days in between smoking. Saying something doesn't make it real. Only doing it makes it real. Vaping alone clearly isn't enough to keep you off the fags because you always go back to smoking after a few days for whatever reason. Boredom, habit, craving, being enabled, whatever. Bottom line is it all comes down to mindset. The longer that you abstain from something the easier it becomes to cement your resolve to not do it again. Breaking the habit is important. 3 to 5 days in between smoking is not breaking the habit, you're simply putting it on pause. If vaping alone isn't enough to keep you off the fags then I'd suggest trying another medium to try and help facilitate your transition away from smoking. The priority is to stop smoking. Once you've done that you'll find it easier to shift between alternatives, if that's what you want. So... if smoking to vaping isn't happening then maybe try smoking to a heated tobacco alternative first and then to vaping once you've broken the habit of smoking.

this is exactly right, and good advice. the repeated failures cumulatively make subsequent failures inevitable. like a snowball effect. it will never work.

 

[P2PLeon]

In just under 13 hours, I will have done 4 days without.

And now it is becoming apparent that I need to beat 5 days to stay clear of cravings.

I usually get them on the first and second day, but once I get the nack of Quitting, I go four or five days without. I tend to have a harder and clearer vision of smoking again.

But I must resist the temptation.

 

[P2PLeon]

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