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Big tobacco steals a march on the ecig companies?

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Seems so if this is correct

http://cigelectric.co.uk/mhra-endorsement-of-electronic-cigarette/




Full Steam Ahead: MHRA Guarantees Endorsement of BAT’s New Electronic Cigarette
Cigarette and tobacco companies must adapt and embrace the new technology of electronic cigarettes or risk losing out in this ever expanding market according to a senior analyst from Berenberg Bank.


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Big tobacco firms must position themselves accordingly to take advantage of this product becoming regulated by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) in the UK. Regulation will give tobacco companies a critical advantage.


“We think they will adapt and we think they have some competitive advantages that really are sustainable,” he said. “Critically among those are the knowledge they have of the consumer and also the distribution systems they have.” Erik Bloomquist told CNBC on Thursday.


The MHRA are set to regulate electronic cigarettes as medicines in 2016 to “ensure appropriate standards of safety, quality and efficacy” they announced last month. But this legislation which will ban all current electronic cigarettes in the UK will create a massive void in the market, allowing the tobacco companies responsible for getting people hooked on cigarettes to reap the rewards of this new technology to help people quit.


British American Tobacco (BAT) is well aware of this lucrative opportunity and will position itself accordingly to take advantage of new legislation. BAT is set to launch a new product in 2014 which Erik Bloomquist confirmed will be endorsed by the MHRA. This will allow them to make claims about the devices benefits, such as low health risk compared to tobacco cigarettes. “(The MHRA endorsement) will be a turning point in the product’s popularity” he predicts.


Small and medium business are outraged at the MHRA’s plans as it effectively pushes them out of the market, handing it to tobacco companies on a silver platter. The cost of medical regulation is just too high for current electronic cigarette manufacturers and suppliers to compete. One electronic cigarette company was quoted by the MHRA as needing over 1.8 billion pounds to regulate its current range of products. Another e-cig retailer commented “There are over 1.3 million people using current electronic cigarette products in the UK. There have been no reports of safety issues, quality is ensured through Trading Standards and if efficacy was an issue (the ability to produce a desired effect) why are 1.3 million people happily using these products?”


Current e-cig users are also infuriated with the decision to regulate these products as medicine. “I am no more taking a medicine now by using an e-cig than I was when I smoked cigarettes” one vaper said. “This regulation will ban the variation in these products that makes them so successful. It will deprive users of choice, flavours and performance and will ultimately drive e-cig users back to tobacco and increased risk of smoke related disease.”


Anger has been directed at the MHRA which receives its majority of funding through approving medical products. Criticism has been made that implementing regulation advised by specialists with vested interests in pharmaceutical companies who are losing money from this technology is a poor way to make policy. Excessive regulation will restrict availability of devices that aim to tackle the world’s biggest cause of avoidable illness – tobacco smoking which kills over 5 million people yearly.
 
Just a word to the wise gents. Read what's written rather than what you think is written. The headline is possibly libellous. What is actually written is just one man's opinion, not fact, but journalistic licence means you can twist it to read otherwise. Even this opinion has been surmised by most vapers for some time now.

The sad thing for me is that even if we beat the Two Beeches and governments and retain vaping as consumer products, then what? What do you think the outlay of Big T will be, in buying up all the existing vaping suppliers in the UK?
 
I would be very interested to see the difference between these approved products in comparison to what is already on the market.
 
Now let some one slap me down for saying their all in it together, (if it is true) just like they did before.
Big T, pharma and governments, around the world, that make billions from tobacco sales, are all in it together. And they will try every thing, to ban it or get their cut from the profits.
As you all know, the health and safety rot is just a smoke screen to fend off the millions of smokers that are sitting on the fence. And the millions more that haven't tried it yet.
The faster they can change it, the less opposition there is. As we have already seen in the last couple of weeks, more and more opposition to it all the time. And the longer it's dragged out, the more opposition there will be.
 
Anyone that thinks there couldn't possibly be 'something going on' should watch a Pacino / Crowe film called 'The Insider'. It's essentially the story of a $250 billion dollar law suit / cover up. People get bribed, black mailed and murdered all over the world for a few quid so it's naive to think that a business worth hundreds of biliions a year is not corrupt in any way.
 
My take:

I think that vapers and vaping per sé has been totally discounted as an entity by all concerned. The WHO, Big P&T, EU, MHRA and the Toads of Toad Hall have little or no cognizance whatsoever of what vaping even is. I also think that applies to the wider community too. The whole shebang is geared purely towards e-cigs. I.e. cig-a-likes. This was so evident as shown on Andy Sutton and Dave Dorn's recent trip to Bruxelles when a number of foreign MEPs expressed such surprise at Dave and Sav's vaping gear.

From what I have read and seen, I think at the very best we are seen as just a pimple on the arse of the greater e-cig community. Once the ridiculous proposals to medicinalise e-cigs have been beaten, I don't think it will be very long after before Big T's attention is drawn toward the vaping community. That will be a different type of fight entirely.
 
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