Different Nic Salt Formulas

[Sam Spektor]

Hi,

I'm new to this forum, but I've been using Nicotine Salts since October 2018 and here in NY as laws clamp down on distributors I've stocked up on E-Juice. Ever since the beginning of this year I noticed that the Nicotine Salt juices I've been buying don't satisfy me the same way, they don't even have the same physiological effect. New Nic-Salts seem to be more like freebase juice.

To illustrate I'll explain further, I ordered 10 bottles my favorite juice late last year and I received 2 bottles that were normal and 8 that were a different color, but all in the same packaging. Upon trying them I noticed that the darker, new formula didn't work as a nicotine salt to me. It felt more like a freebase with no throat-hit. Since then, I've tried countless brands and flavors all to no avail, and I can't seem to find an explanation anywhere. The only thing that stands out to me is that scientific journals explain different acids used to make nicotine salts (Benzoic, Pyruvic etc.) and I'm wondering if the issue lies there. Is it possible that the industry switched, if so, how am I the only one to notice and be affected?

Has any nic-salt user had a similar experience? No amount of research is helping me determine which manufacturers use which. I'm finding that no nicotine juice available anymore works the way all my old juices have and it's really bothering me. I don't really have any vaping friends or anything to help me and I am really hoping the community here can guide me.

Thanks so much.

Sam S.

 

[Mr Ripple]

I don't use salts but hi and welcome @Sam Spektor and hope someone else on here can help.

 

[Jd_]

Hi,

I'm new to this forum, but I've been using Nicotine Salts since October 2018 and here in NY as laws clamp down on distributors I've stocked up on E-Juice. Ever since the beginning of this year I noticed that the Nicotine Salt juices I've been buying don't satisfy me the same way, they don't even have the same physiological effect. New Nic-Salts seem to be more like freebase juice.

To illustrate I'll explain further, I ordered 10 bottles my favorite juice late last year and I received 2 bottles that were normal and 8 that were a different color, but all in the same packaging. Upon trying them I noticed that the darker, new formula didn't work as a nicotine salt to me. It felt more like a freebase with no throat-hit. Since then, I've tried countless brands and flavors all to no avail, and I can't seem to find an explanation anywhere. The only thing that stands out to me is that scientific journals explain different acids used to make nicotine salts (Benzoic, Pyruvic etc.) and I'm wondering if the issue lies there. Is it possible that the industry switched, if so, how am I the only one to notice and be affected?

Has any nic-salt user had a similar experience? No amount of research is helping me determine which manufacturers use which. I'm finding that no nicotine juice available anymore works the way all my old juices have and it's really bothering me. I don't really have any vaping friends or anything to help me and I am really hoping the community here can guide me.

Thanks so much.

Sam S.

Hey man, n welcome, im actually just south of n u in philly.

I really cant tell u what might be going on in your state, the draconian laws they passed could have led to manufacturers doing all sorts of stuff.

Are you buying stuff from in-state or out of state, and what brands specifically, what websites?

Depending on where in new york u r i might be able to help u out as well if u r willing to drive down to philly, we have no laws here at all yet.

I have heard that vape srore have been opening on indian reservations since they are considered sovereign countries, another thing to consider.

I can tell u some reputable places to get juice from, rather cheaply too, but i already know they wont ship to new york

Another thing that i have been fooling around with for the eventual vapocalypse is simply buying juice and adding my own nicotine salt, i can help u with this as well if u want

 

[MrDJ]

hI @Sam Spektor a welcome to the planet from the other side of the big pond.
sadly cant help much here as in the UK the max we can buy is 20mg salts so JD above may be your best help.
what strength salts are you using at the moment?

 

[Jd_]

I was about to mention, u do realize this is a uk based forum, right? You are actually pretty lucky to find someone as close as philly.

If you decide to go the route of buying juice online and simply having it shipped to an address outside of new york, i believe e-cigarette.com is an american based forum, u might find someone in new hampshire, Connecticut, or northern pa willing to accept packages for u. That would be the easiest thing to do if u ask me.

Also, i have been trying to get that info about which nicotine mfgs use which salts, they wont tell u, they consider it a trade secret.

I have also tried to find out which brand nicotine juice retailers use, they also will try not to tell u, altho sometime u get a ditzy customer service agent who inadvertently gives it away by telling u something that lets u know which brand they use.

Regardless, if u r near nyc, and dont mind the hour and a half drive to 2 hour drive down to me, i live pretty close to the pa turnpike, im in a nice neighborhood, nothing shady, and im more than happy to let u ship as much juice as u want to my address. And u can just pick it up anytime.