Dilution in shortfills

[mustybadger]

Hi all,

I'm currently not mixing my own liquids with concentrates, but I want to do the following (I have a load of 250-500ml PET bottles for this):

1. Extend the life of my 0mg shortfills by topping up with additional PG/VG and using nicotine shots to convert to 6mg.
2. Convert a 60ml 0mg into a 130~ml 12mg.

So, my question is how this level of dilution will affect flavor. If I'm adding 6/7 nicotine shots to a 60ml 0mg to convert to ~12mg, how much will it affect the underlying flavor? Still vapable? or just stick with buying "standard" 12mg 10ml?

And how much PG/VG would you add to a 0mg before the flavor becomes over-diluted?

Also, please note that I'm currently not going to be using 72mg nicotine, so i'm limited to nicotine shots. I have a child and animals at home and don't want to be storing liters of nicotine at home, so I'm limited to using nicotine shots at the moment (I have a load of Darkstar 18mg shots so I'm set with that).

Thanks for any help!
Ollie

 

[*Wookie*]

I believe by trying to double the quantity of any shortfills you will half the flavour of it

 

[MrDJ]

12mg is just a waste of time as shortfills were designed for the cloud chaser and 3-6mg only.
As I mentioned on another post recently if the shortfill company also does tpd 10ml bottles then that is the only way of keeping the original taste at the strength to want. So instead of 18mg no flavour nic shots buy 18mg of same flavour to add to shortfill to up the nic strength to 12mg

 

[Simon G]

Hi all,

I'm currently not mixing my own liquids with concentrates, but I want to do the following (I have a load of 250-500ml PET bottles for this):

1. Extend the life of my 0mg shortfills by topping up with additional PG/VG and using nicotine shots to convert to 6mg.
2. Convert a 60ml 0mg into a 130~ml 12mg.

So, my question is how this level of dilution will affect flavor. If I'm adding 6/7 nicotine shots to a 60ml 0mg to convert to ~12mg, how much will it affect the underlying flavor? Still vapable? or just stick with buying "standard" 12mg 10ml?

It would effect it massively I would imagine, it would be like halving the percentages of every flavour in a recipe. .... which is a huge amount.

you could dilute some of the less robust flavour elements to the point where you can't even taste them any more.

 

[mustybadger]

Cool, cheers for the replies all. Makes sense

 

[Sprite71]

You can get 9mg shortfalls here (or higher if you get 20mg vg nic shots). Flavour probably won’t be as affected if you add more shots than recommended (can get 50/50 or 70/30 vg/pg)

https://www.mrslordspantry.co.uk/collections/easy-mix-shortfills

 

[WaitFor1t88]

get some 72mg nic, see you said you didnt want to but if you're that concerned with safety just buy a small amount, enough to bump up the nic of the juice you have and as others have said the flavour will be hlaf as strong with standard shots

 

[mustybadger]

get some 72mg nic, see you said you didnt want to but if you're that concerned with safety just buy a small amount, enough to bump up the nic of the juice you have and as others have said the flavour will be hlaf as strong with standard shots

Any links to where you can buy smaller amounts of 7.2%? Only seem to be able to find them in 1l or more given they're only supposed to sell to manufacturers?

 

[mattyk2010]

Any links to where you can buy smaller amounts of 7.2%? Only seem to be able to find them in 1l or more given they're only supposed to sell to manufacturers?

Pm'd

 

[WaitFor1t88]

Any links to where you can buy smaller amounts of 7.2%? Only seem to be able to find them in 1l or more given they're only supposed to sell to manufacturers?

If @mattyk2010 (cheers mate) hasnt sorted you just drop me a pm