E-cigarette 'lure' fears might be unfounded

[Matheist]

BBC News - E-cigarette 'lure' fears might be unfounded

Doesn't look a bad article, it's open for comments too.

 

[Chegs]

The cynic in me says this has nothing to do with MPs panicking they won't be able to use their vaping gear in Westminster?

 

[cheersm8]

Fingers crossed that this article, along with those that are bound to follow over the next few months, are as simple as being indicative of the timeline of "all things new", whereby the more customary something becomes, the less "fuss" it creates.
Their (the vested interest parties) "best shot" so far as been one barrel of scare tactics and one barrel of bully boy tactics and both barrels are emptying fast, just like they have done in similar situations throughout mans existence on this planet we call earth.
That's why that thing called "progress" is a major player in mankind's evolution.

Of course, as Chegs says , in our "them and us" society, it's probably down to the possibility of the antz effecting the thems as well as the uses.

 

[schlinky]

It seems the article is unrelated to what it's reporting. The point is whether vaping is a gateway into smoking, not whether non smokers vape. The pertinent issue is whether those non smokers then go on to smoke of which I see zero evidence of.

Anyway, I thought this comment sums vaping (and the opposition it receives) up quite well;
"The health nutters have really shot themselves in the foot on this one."

We need the health nutters on board on this one.

 

[schlinky]

Fingers crossed that this article, along with those that are bound to follow over the next few months, are as simple as being indicative of the timeline of "all things new", whereby the more customary something becomes, the less "fuss" it creates.
Their (the vested interest parties) "best shot" so far as been one barrel of scare tactics and one barrel of bully boy tactics and both barrels are emptying fast, just like they have done in similar situations throughout mans existence on this planet we call earth.
That's why that thing called "progress" is a major player in mankind's evolution.

Of course, as Chegs says , in our "them and us" society, it's probably down to the possibility of the antz effecting the thems as well as the uses.

The thing is you can't argue with the improved health aspect and the results, most people who are serious about quitting smoking and have tried vaping have seen its benefits, both financially and phsyically.

The opponents to vaping are big players but the benefits of vaping are massive too. The only thing this comes down to is profit, shareholders and control (legislation) which is a real f*kin shame.

 

[cheersm8]

I see where you are coming from schlinky, but I'm sure that the whole vaping debacle will end with one thing - definition!
At the present time, lack of definition has provided a grey area which is being exploited by both those "in it for the bucks" and those of the "anti, I know more about your health than you do because I am a self righteous prig" brigade.
Once vaping is defined, and it will never be defined as "smoking", the legislators, politicians, antz, and health lobbyists, will leave the arena, leaving the only gladiators standing made up of all of the various vaping component manufacturers battling it out for the biggest slice of pie. (and, of course, the tobacco industry, who, will, no doubt, be gunning for the biggest slice)
Same rules apply to vaping as every other consumer product.

 

[schlinky]

I see where you are coming from schlinky, but I'm sure that the whole vaping debacle will end with one thing - definition!
At the present time, lack of definition has provided a grey area which is being exploited by both those "in it for the bucks" and those of the "anti, I know more about your health than you do because I am a self righteous prig" brigade.
Once vaping is defined, and it will never be defined as "smoking", the legislators, politicians, antz, and health lobbyists, will leave the arena, leaving the only gladiators standing made up of all of the various vaping component manufacturers battling it out for the biggest slice of pie. (and, of course, the tobacco industry, who, will, no doubt, be gunning for the biggest slice)
Same rules apply to vaping as every other consumer product.

I agree about the definition thing, the grey area allows for too much manipulation of the facts.

I think it's analogous (bleuch, sorry, just had to cough up the dictionary I swallowed!) to the photography industry. Film and developing clung on for a short time but ultimately the writing was on the wall because digital simply provided a better user experience and many companies went under as a result.
The big tobacco companies will have to adapt or die, the trouble is they're going to put up a massive fight on the way down.
As it is things are relatively affordable without industry level markups and profit margins, no taxation is a big deal too.

With definition and legislation will come an exponential price increase with everyone wanting a slice of the pie, government included. At this point my sentiment is 'fuck off, it's got nothing to do with you'. I'm quite happy with the way things are thank you very much!