Evolv temperature

[sparkyjuice]

Interesting photo lifted off FB
Courtesy P Busardo



Look closely bottom left


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[Loco]

Surely this is monitoring battery temp, rather than in the atomizer?

 

[BaDaBooM]

Heard it will have temperature control like some other mods have. You should be able to program it on your computer or phone. Say you have a kayfun that you vape at 15 watts you will be able to set so it feels like its at 15watts heat wise as soon as you push the button by setting it like this 0-0.5secs 50w - 0.5-1s 25w - 1-10s 15w.

What evolve have done and this is just what I'm guessing is that say you normally take a drag at 10watts for 4secs and the peak temperature of that drag is 200c, you will be able to set the temperature to 200c and the board will calculate how many watts it needs to keep the temperature at 200c from start to finish of the 4sec drag. It would be something like this 0-0.2s 50w - 0.2-2s 12w - 2-3s 10w - 3-4s 8w.

 

[Loco]

Heard it will have temperature control like some other mods have. You should be able to program it on your computer or phone. Say you have a kayfun that you vape at 15 watts you will be able to set so it feels like its at 15watts heat wise as soon as you push the button by setting it like this 0-0.5secs 50w - 0.5-1s 25w - 1-10s 15w.

What evolve have done and this is just what I'm guessing is that say you normally take a drag at 10watts for 4secs and the peak temperature of that drag is 200c, you will be able to set the temperature to 200c and the board will calculate how many watts it needs to keep the temperature at 200c from start to finish of the 4sec drag. It would be something like this 0-0.2s 50w - 0.2-2s 12w - 2-3s 10w - 3-4s 8w.

Thanks Bada, is nice to have a fresh perspective on this. I have been thinking for quite a while about the ways they could possibly execute this idea,but to no avail.

What you suggest about using software to help with the settings and calculations makes this possible to a degree....however, I can't see it being a completely efficient system, as I couldn't see how they

could take into account variables like airflow, that have effect over the atty temperature.

Is still an interesting concept none the less....and a nice change from the high watts power war most manufacturers seem preoccupied with.

Personally, id just like to see them spend time refining whats already available, into more efficient and smaller size chips!

 

[BaDaBooM]

Thanks Bada, is nice to have a fresh perspective on this. I have been thinking for quite a while about the ways they could possibly execute this idea,but to no avail.

What you suggest about using software to help with the settings and calculations makes this possible to a degree....however, I can't see it being a completely efficient system, as I couldn't see how they

could take into account variables like airflow, that have effect over the atty temperature.

Is still an interesting concept none the less....and a nice change from the high watts power war most manufacturers seem preoccupied with.

Personally, id just like to see them spend time refining whats already available, into more efficient and smaller size chips!

Evolve are not the first to do this it has been done before but I can't remember what mod it was. Evolve are trying to do a game changer again like the they did with wattage control. The other mod that did this you had to sett the watts like I said above, 0-0.2s 50w - 0.2-1.0s.... but evolve I think are trying to do it so you only have to set the temp. I'm only guessing I have no idea what it is really.
You could dial in your device perfect this way.

I don't think they are trying to compete with the monster wattage chips, it seems like they are trying to target the people that use kayfuns, taifuns etc so they get a better quality vape.
Buying a 50watt device and sticking kayfun on it is like buying a 1000hp car and putting smart car wheels on it you are never going to get use all the power.

If we look at the market and I'm only guessing again we have 3 types of vapers, frist type you be normal vapers they vape ego's to mvp's (5-11watts), this probably the largest group, secound we could call enthusiast vapers mvp to dna30 (10-20watts) and then you have the hardcores (20+ watts), smallest group. Now evolve are not going to sell any chips to the normal users and the hardcore vapers are too small piece of the market so they seem to be targeting the enthusiasts because that is largest market they can sell to.

 

[sparkyjuice]

It could be guesstimating temp based on wattage
Possibly measuring resistance change from rest and an applied voltage
Possibly using thermocouple voltage of dissimilar metals (kanthal/stainless)
At coil terminals
Lots of variables though


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[ambivalent]

Big difference in specific heat capacity of different coil builds as well, it doesn't just come down to resistance and material. To many variables to calculate coil temperature theoretically alone, surely this type of thing could only work with an actual temperature sensor in the set up somewhere. Or a detailed user interface to give the chip alot of info about the coil.

 

[sparkyjuice]

To do it properly the chip needs feedback
Non atty specific, resistance and current are the only 2 it has


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