Fake Charger

[speedfreek67]

I guess what I was thinking @Mitz considering what a dodgy dealer this guy seems to be ..... buy fake new boxes, cheap UK mains cables and package them with genuine chargers that were 'reconditioned returns' or something shady like that.

I've never seen a fake with nitecore branded parts, sockets, PCB etc, not to say it's not fake, because Chinese cloners are getting damn good,

Check out the link on Fogstars blog, the internals on some fake units look like nitecore internals, although on some of them 1 internal part was branded "Nite Coke"

 

[Simon G]

Check out the link on Fogstars blog, the internals on some fake units look like nitecore internals, although on some of them 1 internal part was branded "Nite Coke"

I'll go and look now ...... nitecoke? lol.

they always fuck up with something.

 

[Adrian1976]

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[speedfreek67]

@simong see the link in Adrian's above post.

 

[Axel]

I hope that guy sues for the costs incurred.

I concur wholeheartedly, although at this point civil liability should be the least of his concerns. Whether unknowingly (snort!) or not, he sold a dangerous defective item to the public, now that has come to light he has a statutory duty of care to fulfil unless he wants to open himself up for prosecution for criminal negligence. (Disclaimer: IANAL & I don't play one on TV either!). Ineffectual protestations that he's emailed everyone who he knows might have one of these telling them to destroy them and he'll issue a replacement aren't going to impress the judiciary.

Product recalls exist for a reason - so each and every dangerous unit can be accounted for. Samsung didn't WANT to issue a recall when their phone batteries started doing phosphorous grenade impressions. Tesco, Morrisons et al didn't WANT to plaster notices all over their stores admitting some of their steak might have a Grand National pedigree, they did so because it's the effing law to do so. The safety and well being of the general public comes first. Lame half measures like emailing your customers to burn the evidence if they have one is woefully insufficient, this doesn't account for any that may have been accidentally left in the back of a taxi, lost, stolen. sitting in the window of a local charity shop, people who use Spam trap email accounts when they buy online so may never even see said warning, people who for one reason or another may have switched ISPs and no longer even have access to the email account he has on record, etc etc. If you've sold a potential incendiary device, you do everything and anything you can to warn as many people as you can, customers or not.

 

[haich]

weird ..... to me that all looks genuine inside ...nitecore branded pcb, parts etc.

I wonder if he bought these cheap with USA/Foreign mains leads and then bought a load of very cheap 'UK style' cables to package with them?

Surely all chargers authenticate on the same site, so if NDB had taken this route, we might never of known as products would go through the verification?

 

[marand]

So are the fake chargers passing authentication as the one i got this morning has passed but it dont have the buttons on the side or the EU on the top sticker? So if its passed verification is it genuine or not?

 

[Simon G]

So are the fake chargers passing authentication as the one i got this morning has passed but it dont have the buttons on the side or the EU on the top sticker? So if its passed verification is it genuine or not?

The chargers we are talking about from NDB are 'NEW i4' ... it doesn't have buttons on the side or an EU 'tag' and no they aren't passing authentification.

 

[Jon The Vape]

The plot yet thickens...

For the sake of customer security, I'm not going throw names out here but i believe all of this to be both relevant, and likely useful for the future.

I've been contacted by "others" over the course of this morning. Two in particular has sent me pictures of a counterfeit charger claimed to have been bought from Next Day Batteries. They've also included a picture of the paypal receipt which interestingly displays the name "M & T Partners Ltd" as the recipient of the payment.

Looking at the website, mtpartnership .co.uk, it bears a striking resemblance to that of NDB. In fact, looking into the source code for the website, they're identical selling the same products. The source code on the page shows it was almost certainly built by the same person/company with only changes being made for branding.
Further to the above, the bottom of the website displays the name "The Complete Startup", a company/business with which the owner is NDB is/was affiliated with.
Looking up the details of M & T Partners, the owner/director of this business has an affiliation with "GeoTee Apparel".
The owner of NDB had himself listed as a Director of GeoTee until very recently when GeoTee popped up on Facebook to denounce it and said he was merely going to be an investor, and for various reasons this was no longer the case and had requested it was removed from his profile in order not to be caught up in this.

Make of it what you will, but there is clearly more to this than initially thought and someone is far from coming clean...

@18650UK
I posted a link earlier today from Yell. Com of the Leeds area trading standards office his local branch. Is it worth contacting them.

 

[Simon G]

@simong see the link in Adrian's above post.

I've seen it before, I wouldn't start bringing D4's into it though, there's loads of fakes of those ... has been for ages and been threads on it.