flavour concentrate %

[cyrex]

Hi Guys

Im kind of new to mixing, just wanted to know what is the best flavour concentrate for fruits and what is the best flavour concentrate percentage for sweet for a 10ml liquid?

 

[Phantom Diablo]

depnds on so many factors. the fruit for instance.. pineapple is very very strong and only needs around 2-5%, forest fruits, blackvurrant, cherry etc, ive found between 5-10, soft fruits like straberry, raspberry, peach, , apricot, between 5-15%, citrus fruits between 5-15%.
this also depends on brands and your PG/ VG ratio as higher VG = more clouds but less taste but also VG adds a little sweetness. Higher PG gives more flavour , less clouds.

then theres manufacturers.. Inawera i always find to be strong, cupcake world can be quite weak, then you have TFA, Capella, moms and pops, Kandi Hed, flavour west, lorann, one on one, flavourart etc etc.
best option is to get a juice calculator such as ejuicemeup and then look around for recipes that sound appealing to you ( theres loads on here and also dozens of recipe websites such as this one
E-Liquid Recipes | DIY E-Juice | e cig Liquids

 

[cyrex]

I have most flavour from capella FA and TFA, i don't like a single flavour so i tend to mix few flavours together. I mixed raspberry with lemon Sicily, fresh cream and high vg, the mix was fine but too much raspberry i think cause i made the total mix of flavour 16%, the lowest was the cream and the highest was raspberry.

Now I'm thinking of mixing fresh vanilla with espresso but don't know how much flavour % for the whole 10ml would be!

Looked at some recipe but didnt find one to my liking.

 

[Jugg1es]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/t953-wbwUCkVfHiiGbZ439g/htmlview
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr..._hQ6Fu8HdEwwR2dLRUJlVjlabEN1NG1ucktuUVE&gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...rts&sortcolid=-1&sortasc=true&rowsperpage=250
Have a look at these links, they might give you some good starting points

 

[Phantom Diablo]

based on avergare 10% then its 1ml of flavour
but easier to work using the calc

eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
you could try this



10% Coffee flavor
7% French vanilla
5% Dulce de Leche
2% Ethyl Maltol


or


cheesecake 8%
coffee 7%
french vanilla 5%
sweeetner 1%

really though its all about experimenting and adjusting to suit your own tastes.
tried several coffee based flavours myself and none have come close and seems to be the best coffee e liquid out there is one made with steeped coffee beans!

 

[RagingMammoth]

Unless it's indicated to be mixed at like 6% or something, mix it at 20%. It'll be fine.

 

[Phantom Diablo]

sometimes less is better. talking the otehr day to someone who knows full well about making juices ( they make one of the best ones out there ) and they said they were testing some strawberry concentrate.. at between 15-20 it was awful with little taste. yet at only 5% the strawberry flavour came out really nice and strong and fresh.
easier to add more flavour later if its to weak.
also if doing test making dont use any nic until you get the flavour percentages right.. nics not cheap and it has no effect on actual taste so just make your samples ( 2-5ml ) with just pg, vg and flavour.

once your happy with the result then you can make larger batch with the nic and still have the same percentages of flavour.

 

[cyrex]

sometimes less is better. talking the otehr day to someone who knows full well about making juices ( they make one of the best ones out there ) and they said they were testing some strawberry concentrate.. at between 15-20 it was awful with little taste. yet at only 5% the strawberry flavour came out really nice and strong and fresh.
easier to add more flavour later if its to weak.
also if doing test making dont use any nic until you get the flavour percentages right.. nics not cheap and it has no effect on actual taste so just make your samples ( 2-5ml ) with just pg, vg and flavour.

once your happy with the result then you can make larger batch with the nic and still have the same percentages of flavour.

I will do that from now on, thanks for the info mate.

Any recommended clero to try the juice with?

 

[shezzuk1]

Any recommended clero to try the juice with?

I use an iClear 16B on an old MVP2 to test juices as it's so easy to clean and swap flavours.

 

[Phantom Diablo]

i use a dripepr for testing as it gives the cleanest flavour for me. and only takes a few seconds to change wicks when need to. normally i uase something around 1.2 - 1.6 ohms as im looking for flavours not clouds.