Here we go again; a French study has a go at e-cigs

[TeaRose]

Just found this in today's Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2402108/E-cigarettes-harmful-cigarettes-cause-cancer-claims-study.html

 

[Mark]

What? Bullshit in the Daily Fail? Incredible.

 

[Boz]

Yah... I saw that. They published one of my comments concerning the dodgy source but not the other one in reply to some ignoramus who was saying that there must be "all sorts of chemicals" in e-cigs. I gave the three ingredients in my home-brew (VG, flavour and nicotine) and explained what each was. I guess some mod thought it was too much science for Mail readers to handle.

Headline: "E-cigarettes are as harmful as cigarettes and could cause cancer, claims study"


"I've read the article on the magazine's site and in it the INC (Institut National de la Consommation), a French Consumer Association, is quoted as being the source. What isn't made clear is that the magazine is more of a glorified propaganda leaflet than something you'd find on any news stand and is produced by the INC itself. EU countries have been gearing up to banning e-cigarettes since they first appeared for the mass market in 2006 (the idea was originally that of a Chinese man who first constructed one in his basement in 2004). The "findings" are political nonsense rather than science. Studies show that e-cigarettes are much healthier for the user and what comes off these devices is harmless steam. There is a mountain of evidence for that but it has been conveniently ignored by a social-Marxist ruling class who are peddling a lie. E-cigarettes are a libertarian success story which is the only real reason why the authoritarian governments of the EU will eventually ban them."

 

[6027david]

Just a laymans thought on this. E-cigs are marketed as those devices that are pre packaged, with pre filled atomisers that you see advertised in the press and for sale at the kiosk/tobacco counter of your local supermarket. They look like a traditional cigarette and are intended to keep that purchaser buying that same brand of e-cigarette, much like the tobacco companies do with their product. Now anyone with a suspicious mind must already get where I am heading with this, with regard to THOSE SPECIFIC E-CIGS. It may actually be the case that the manufacturers are putting additives into the atomisers, other than the ingredients we, as vapers, use, simply to promote addiction. I have always thought that there should be a definite division and difference between e-cigs and 'personal vapourisers'. That is just my two penneth and I know I do not need to elaborate for you all to get my drift.

 

[Mawsley]

Everything the Mail thinks (and I use that word very very loosely) can give or cure cancer thus far:





http://www.anorak.co.uk/288298/scar...things-that-give-you-cancer-from-a-to-z.html/

http://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com/a-z/a

• AGE
• AIR POLLUTION
• AIR TRAVEL
• ALCOHOL
• ALLERGIES
• ARTIFICIAL FLAVOURS (Yes, this article resulted in my mother only buying one brand of soy sauce)
• ARTIFICIAL LIGHT
• ASBESTOS
• ASPIRI
• BABIES (better stay childless then!)
• BABY BOTTLES
• BABY FOOD (more reason not to have sprogs!)
• BACON (better become veggie)
• BARBEQUES (not much fun without beer, beef, bacon and chicken anyway)
• BEEF
• BEER
• BEING A BLACK PERSON
• BEING A WOMAN
• BEING A MAN (hermaphredites are definitely screwed then right?)
• BEING SOUTHERN
• BISCUITS
• BLOWJOBS (I'm guessing a lot of women shall be using this one as an excuse after reading this article! HAHA!)
• BRAS (better to have saggy boobs than no boobs?)
• BREAD (there goes the last ingredient in my BBQ burger)
• BREAST FEEDING
• BREAST IMPLANTS (and there goes my chance of pert boobs thanks to no bra)
• BROKEN HEARTS
• BUBBLE BATH
• BURGERS (bit hard to have burgers anyway with no BBQ, no beef and no bread!)
• CAFFINE
• CALCUIM
• CANDLE-LIT DINNERS (hence the broken heart)
• CANNED FOOD (no baked beans with my non existent bacon butty then...)
• CARBOHYDRATES (so no pasta OR bread? I'm going to starve)
• CARS
• CEREAL
• CHEESE
• CHICKEN
• CHILDLESSNESS (hold up, doesn't HAVING kids cause cancer too?!)
• CHILDREN (damned if you do and damned if you don't then..)
• CHILDREN’S FOOD
• CHILLIS
• CHINESE MEDICINE (but not western medcine right? JUST Chinese Medcine...)
• CHIPS (that's the fry up off the menu)
• CHLORINE (and my bath)
• CHOCOLATE (WHAT! F that, I'm eating it anyway! You can take away my meat but you can't take away my chocolate... try it and see what happens!)
• CITY LIVING
• CLIMATE CHANGE
• COCA COLA
• COD LIVER OIL (so not only will you have brittle bones, you'll have dodgy joints, but you'll be cancer free! Whoop!)
• COFFEE
• CONSTAPATION (not much chance of that if all I'm eating is veg!)
• CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS
• COOKING
• CORDLESS PHONES (please god don't let Mum see that one, she's bad enough with mobile phones and wifi!)
• CRAYONS
• CURRY
• DEODRANT (no bubble bath and no deodorant... the world's going to be a very smelly place...)
• DIETING
• DOGS (huh, who knew it... dogs are bad, but cats don't feature on the list)
• EGGS
• ELECTRICITY
• ENGLISH BREAKFAST
• FACEBOOK (I always knew facebook was evil...)
• FALSE NAILS
• FATHERHOOD
• FIBRE
• FISH
• FLIP FLOPS
• FLY SPRAY
• FRUIT
• GARDENS (yes, the outdoors is a dangerous place...)
• GRAPEFRUIT (well, duh... it's a fruit...)
• HAIR DYE
• HAM
• HEIGHT (thank god I'm short!)
• HONEY
• HOT DRINKS
• HRT
• INTERNET
• IVF
• KIDNEY TRANSPLANTS (better to just have no kidneys right? Oh no wait, that won't work...)
• LAMB
• LARGE HEADS
• LEFT-HANDEDNESS (and all those lefties thought they were so clever...)
• LIPSTICK
• LIVER TRANSPLANTS
• MENOPAUSE
• MENSTRUATION
• METAL
• MILK
• MOBILE PHONES (the very reason my mother owns a mobile but never switches it on...)
• MODERN LIVING (quick! Build a time machine... I'll be safe in the 1600's)
• MONEY (ha! I'll be fine then, I don't have much of that one!)
• MORPHINE
• MOUTHWASH (well, if my body's going to hum, my mouth may as well too...)
• NUCLEAR POWER
• OBESITY
• OESTROGEN
• OLDER FATHERs
• PASTRY
• PEANUT BUTTER
• PERFUME (now what am I going to use to mask the BO smell from my lack of bathing?!)
• PICKLES
• PIZZA
• PLASTIC BAGS
• PORK
• POTATOES
• POVERTY (but money makes you ill too! Perhaps the middle classes are safe...)
• PREGNANCY
• RADIOACTIVITY
• RICE (Nooooooooooooo!)
• SAUSAGES
• RETIREMENT
• SEX
• SHAVING (well if men are gonna stop washing they may as well go the whole hog)
• SKIING
• SOUP
• SPACE TRAVEL (can't realistically see me being affected by this one in my lifetime..but nice of them to give us the heads up JUST in case...)
• SUN CREAM
• TALCUM POWDER
• TEA
• TEEN SEX
• VITAMINS
• WATER
• WI-FI (Goddamnit YES my Mum read THIS one... GRRR)
• WORCESTERSHIRE SAUCE
• WORKING
• X-RAYS

 

[Mawsley]

HAS CANCER INFECTED YOUR CHILDREN WITH AIDS?

[h=2]Daily Mail-o-matic[/h]

 

[Mawsley]

Will single mothers give drivers cancer?

Will working mothers give your daughters cancer?

Could cancer turn the church gay?

 

[6027david]

They also ran a story, shortly after I had my first MI, that the NHS was concerned that patients with heart problems, who had been prescribed medication, were spraying GTN onto their glans penis to promote an erection. This caused a rush on GTN sprays and patients that were prescribed it for very good reasons of their health (me included) had it removed from their repeat prescription list. They love scare mongering and care not for any upset it causes. ps. the GTN thing Don't work. Just in case you were wondering. Not that you were, of course.

 

[Mawsley]

...ps. the GTN thing Don't work. Just in case you were wondering. Not that you were, of course.

I find that GVC does though.