Mix success ratio

[BfcDanny]

When i get out of hospital i am looking into making my own mixes, and was just wondering what peoples first mix stories/success rates have been.

Have you made any horrors or have they all mostly come out as suspected.

What pitfalls should be avoided?

I am sure i will think of more nearer the time.

Thanks as always.

 

[KulrMeStoopid]

Avoid over priced flavour concentrates and nic base!


I have only made one that I couldnt vape, it was rank and I threw it all away. other that nothing major aside from dumping 50ml of 24mg nic all down my front side


It is quite easy. I just placed an order with a vendor, and am awaiting delivery before I review them on here, but they sell complete mixing kits with nic, flavours, bottles ect. for a greal price!

 

[BfcDanny]

Avoid over priced flavour concentrates and nic base!


I have only made one that I couldnt vape, it was rank and I threw it all away. other that nothing major aside from dumping 50ml of 24mg nic all down my front side


It is quite easy. I just placed an order with a vendor, and am awaiting delivery before I review them on here, but they sell complete mixing kits with nic, flavours, bottles ect. for a greal price!

And what sort of saving are you making from mixing your own to buying ready made. Although i realise you also get to flavour just as you like so thats a bonus too i suppose.

 

[ZT]

here is the only bit of sage advice I can offer ....

when using seedmans flu cured .. a small amount makes a very nice smooth rounded finish to a tobacco mix

a large amount makes an unvapeable nag champa josstick

 

[jrob3rts]

here is the only bit of sage advice I can offer ....

when using seedmans flu cured .. a small amount makes a very nice smooth rounded finish to a tobacco mix

a large amount makes an unvapeable nag champa josstick

Good to note. I actually looked t that earlier but decided against it because I couldn't find that much info on it.

 

[AndyM]

I'd say be careful with malic acid for giving you a torte taste in fruit mixes its very strong I'm sure it removed the lining of my throat

 

[Bryan123456]

My advice would be:

a) Read all the basic guides
b) Choose your flavour concentrates really carefully and read what other people are saying about them. This is really key: concentrates vary widely in the quality of the flavour, concentration and any additions needed to make a good vape. A rank concentrate will make a rank vape - a good rounded concentrate (some like Capella and Tino D'Milano are pretty 'good to go' - add to base, steep, vape) is a good start.
c) Curtail your ambition and experimentation to small bottles and - trying out in VG/PG is cheaper than doing so in a mix containing nicotine base.
d) Start small and focus on quality - a big bottle of XYZ cheap is a waste of money if it's no good to you
e) As you get into it start buying bigger and better at base, PG and VG
f) When you're running, with the exception of tobacco vapes, concentrate will be the most expensive element per ml used of most things you vape.
g) Heed what the manufacturers and retailers say about recommended ratios, additives and steeping - they want you to succeed and buy more.

On non tobaccos, Capellas are some of my most expensive concentrates in use. They are also amongst the best and with a bottle, label and everything else about £1.30 per 10 ml. A good tobacco from Tino D Milano will cost about 75p inc bottle and labels. Bottles are an expense and a 30ml bottle is far better value than a 5ml one. 5mls though are great for trial mixes. Like most things, if you start buying 100 bottles, 500ml of nic base, a litre of VG etc... you can get the unit costs down. The Capella and Tino D Milano cocnentrates will let virtually anybody create an e liquid that is better than most commercial ones. Some of them are up near the 'master mixer' level.

Most of my frankenjuices, I created in the period after I had acquired basic competence and knowledge and were a combination of over-confidence, a little (but not enough) knowledge and creation ambition. Menthol rescued 90%+ of them. Now if I know I am going to be 'pushing boundaries/envelopes' I mix in constituent parts first and the mix of these into something else is done on a drop by drop or 10th of an ml basis and - I get nothing bad, just a few that are not good enough or a 'little odd'. The problems really arize with concentrates subsuming other concentrates or flavours dominating and these problems are surmountable. I also have waste in trialling and reviewing concentrates: I mix up flavours that I will never vape myself - and I give these to people who might like them. If I have things that are 'not quite there' - I persevere - and if I reach a point of 'no go' - I know what I can mix with them to create a good flavour. So once you get to that level, waste is minimal.

 

[BfcDanny]

I didn't think a thanks for the post was enough tbh, thanks bryan i have actually copied that into word so i don't lose it.

 

[Purplefowler]

All I can add to all the brilliant advice is to start simple. It is very tempting to add abit of this and abit of that but you really need to know your flavours to do it successfully. Start off with single flavour mixes so you know how strong each flavour is before you combine it with others.

 

[izzy11]

I am making a great saving,was paying about £7.99 per 30ml of premixed (not including post to Spain), now I just
calculated pg/vg/nic/flavour and I can make 100ml for €15 (which i suppose it just over £10) give or take a few cents!!!
Into Capella flavours at the moment, from Leisure liquids.