Mixing own juice

[Tobyspain]

I buy the 3rd item for 4.69. If I buy items 1 and 2 and mix them together will the result be 21 bottles at the same strength. It says dilute 10-20%?

 

[speedfreek67]

Item 1 is a concentrate designed to make up between 10 and 20 % the final mix. You get 30ml of it, which is enough to make up 300ml - 30 bottles at 10% (1ml per 10ml bottle), or 150ml - 15 bottles at 20% (2mls per 10ml bottle).

If you mix it with those nicotine shots at 10%, (1ml concentrate and 9ml nicotine per 10ml bottle) you will dilute your 20mg/ml nic content down to 18mg/ml.

9*20 = 180
180/10 = 18

If you mix it with those nicotine shots at 20%, (2ml concentrate and 8ml nicotine per 10ml bottle) you will dilute your 20mg/ml nic content down to 16mg/ml.

8*20 = 160
160/10 = 16

But you will need an accurate way to measure small amounts, or a large bottle to dump it all into.

Using the large bottle, at 10% you need 30ml concentrate and 27 nic shots, whilst at 20% you need 30ml concentrate and 12 nic shots.

Also, whilst you get stronger flavour at 20%, it will also get more PG heavy, as the concentrate is 100% PG, but either way it won't be 50/50 anymore, it will be thinner.

 

[Frogprince]

Mixing all the 1st 2 items (30ml concentrate and 18x20mg shots) will make equivilant of 21 10ml bottles with 17.14mg nic strength. Dont know what the vg/pg ratio will be.(90ml vg, 120ml pg) 25/75 vg/pg ? I think

 

[Tobyspain]

Item 1 is a concentrate designed to make up between 10 and 20 % the final mix. You get 30ml of it, which is enough to make up 300ml - 30 bottles at 10% (1ml per 10ml bottle), or 150ml - 15 bottles at 20% (2mls per 10ml bottle).

If you mix it with those nicotine shots at 10%, (1ml concentrate and 9ml nicotine per 10ml bottle) you will dilute your 20mg/ml nic content down to 18mg/ml.

9*20 = 180
180/10 = 18

If you mix it with those nicotine shots at 20%, (2ml concentrate and 8ml nicotine per 10ml bottle) you will dilute your 20mg/ml nic content down to 16mg/ml.

8*20 = 160
160/10 = 16

But you will need an accurate way to measure small amounts, or a large bottle to dump it all into.

Using the large bottle, at 10% you need 30ml concentrate and 27 nic shots, whilst at 20% you need 30ml concentrate and 12 nic shots.

Also, whilst you get stronger flavour at 20%, it will also get more PG heavy, as the concentrate is 100% PG, but either way it won't be 50/50 anymore, it will be thinner.

Wow! Good answer, thanks very much. I´ll have to read it a few times to let it sink in, but I have all day. Cheers

 

[Tobyspain]

Mixing all the 1st 2 items (30ml concentrate and 18x20mg shots) will make equivilant of 21 10ml bottles with 17.14mg nic strength. Dont know what the vg/pg ratio will be.(90ml vg, 120ml pg) 25/75 vg/pg ? I think

No idea how you worked that out but I believe you. Thanks. Will have to try and bring it back to 50/50 by mixing up the nic shots eh?

 

[Tobyspain]

How would this mix end up please.

 

[Fuctifino]

How would this mix end up please.View attachment 201703

IF I read it correctly.....

6 x salts @ 50/50
&
6 x salts @ 80/20

combined will make 120ml @ 65 VG / 35 PG @ 20mg or 2%

THEN IF you chucked the 30ml in to make 150ml in total & 20% flav

You will end up with something close to:

51.75 VG to 48.25 PG @ 16mg/1.6% 20% flav in a total of 150ml.....
(aprox the tiny 0.06ml adjustment of VG/PG is nothing tbh)

that is what I've worked out on steam engine.....

so yeah roughly 50/50 16mg but 20% so a bit on strong side perhaps

I'd mix the 2 shots to make 120ml @ 65/35 add half the concentrate & see how you go.....

the above was a 20% 16mg chuck it all in example.....

here is a 10% example.....

120ml combined shot (65/35)
13.33333ml flav (10% of total final juice)

this will make 133.3333333ml of juice:

58.38/41.62 ratio 18mg/1.8% with 10% flavouring in a 133.33333ml bottle......

so yeah mix the shots, add the concentrate - say half the bottle (15ml) flav & see how you go

BUT DO A SMALL TEST BATCH FIRST !!!!!!

 

[Frogprince]

I make that 78ml vg 72ml pg.
If my maths is correct 52/48 vg/pg almost spot on. I think its as close as you will get it using full bottles.

 

[Tobyspain]

IF I read it correctly.....

6 x salts @ 50/50
&
6 x salts @ 80/20

combined will make 120ml @ 65 VG / 35 PG @ 20mg or 2%

THEN IF you chucked the 30ml in to make 150ml in total & 20% flav

You will end up with something close to:

51.75 VG to 48.25 PG @ 16mg/1.6% 20% flav in a total of 150ml.....
(aprox the tiny 0.06ml adjustment of VG/PG is nothing tbh)

that is what I've worked out on steam engine.....

View attachment 201714

so yeah roughly 50/50 16mg but 20% so a bit on strong side perhaps

I'd mix the 2 shots to make 120ml @ 65/35 add half the concentrate & see how you go.....

the above was a 20% 16mg chuck it all in example.....

here is a 10% example.....

120ml combined shot (65/35)
13.33333ml flav (10% of total final juice)

this will make 133.3333333ml of juice:

View attachment 201716

58.38/41.62 ratio 18mg/1.8% with 10% flavouring in a 133.33333ml bottle......

so yeah mix the shots, add the concentrate - say half the bottle (15ml) flav & see how you go

BUT DO A SMALL TEST BATCH FIRST !!!!!!

Brilliant, thank you so much. Sounds what I am trying to get to. Lets get it ordered.

 

[Tobyspain]

Feeling chuffed with myself. Mixed it all together plus another bottle of 50/50 nic shot and it tastes great. Worked out at less than 2 euros a 10ml bottle so a great saving too. Thanks to all who helped me out.