New rules 1/10/15 Smoking, cars and ecigs: A Positive?

[steffijade]

This is being brought in under the Children & Families Act :

Children and Families Act 2014

Have a butcher's at part 5, 91-95.

Personally I'm more concerned with the possibility that the secretary of state might have the power to withdraw products from sale arbitrarily, if there's a readily perceived risk to children's health. We've all seen the scaremongering about 'gateways' and the fact that parts of the act have been retrospectively altered to include the term 'nicotine products' seems to be have done with a specific purpose in mind causes me some concern.

Being an express term in an act of parliament, I think this makes it a statutory instrument and could be enacted regardless of whether the UK government decides to go for full on adoption of the TPD or not.

Obviously, I'm not a lawyer or a legal expert, but I wouldn't trust the buggers as far as I could throw them when it comes to protecting a cash cow (government take between 80-90% of the retail price of every legal sale of cigarettes in the UK in tax of one form or another).

 

[vaporsizer]

The whole concept of relabelling with more warnings & pictures on a pack of smokes makes me laugh. Even the one with the big tash bloke & the throat cancer hasn't stopped anyone so what worse can they print ? Maybe if they put a video of someone dying at the tobacco kiosk, i dunno.

Hmmmmm, 10 benson & hedges & a box of matches please.

 

[philTBA]

I'm no big fan, or hater of police, but plod and me have had a checkered past (MANY traffic offences) but seriously, with the strain of undermanning, or underpersoning for the politically correct brigade, how in the name of your chosen deity, do the government expect plod to police these spurious clap trap of laws. Even with integrated computer systems they can't keep thousands of uninsured/licensed/taxed/MOTD vehicles & drivers off the road. I was driving the Jeep for 7 months without an MOT, and wasn't stopped once !
I will say, it wasn't on purpose, my tax/MOT had got out of sync, and I clean forgot, and It was MOTd the day I realised. (I'm a good law abiding puppy now. ) Plod have too much to do already/have much more important things to keep occupied, to fully enforce stuff like this dreamed up by the government under the guise of 'it's for your own good, we know, cause we've been told.'

 

[EthelKing]

^^^ That.

The same will apply to customs and excise with supplies from abroad when the TPD comes into effect.

I am certain that things like nicotine base in litre or so volumes will be overlooked as no one will have the time or resources to prosecute individuals intending to use their supplies for personal use. I hold snus as a current example. Perfectly legal to purchase for personal use, totally illegal to purchase for commercial sale.

 

[dm]

Well I had to stop the car and open the windows a few times vaping while driving. So much cloud.

 

[paul-7]

Every time a child breathes in exhaust fumes, they breathe in harmful chemicals. This puts them at risk of serious conditions, such as cancer and respiratory infections such as bronchitis and pneumonia and causes many other issues . It can also make asthma worse.

exhaust fumes are dangerous for anyone, but children are especially vulnerable, because they breathe more rapidly and have less developed airways, lungs and immune systems. a large % of exhaust fumes are invisible and opening windows increases its harmful effect.


never mind though

 

[vaporsizer]

Cloud chasers will be ok, the coppers won't be able to see in the car ! No witnesses, nothing to see here

True about the police not having enough resources, where i live if you're not on a mobile while driving, you must be a noob to the area. Never a copper when you need one & yet where i take my tea break each day the armed police cruise by me & leer at me as if i'm a terrorist. I'm only having a cuppa & a pie.