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Thanks out to Frank from Wonder Flavors for sending these out for this review. I've already tested a lot of them during the Beta tests, but there are some new, new, new ones (for me), on top of that. I'm looking forward to getting into these final versions.
**Testing Setup (as always):**
Running these tests, on my SteamCrave RDTA v.1, with dual vertical kanthal, 24 ga. single wire coils, with fresh cotton and dry burned coils before every test. These flavors were steeped a bit past 1 week, and were all mixed/tested @ 3.5%, and in a 70v/30p/3mg carrier @ 65 watts.
**Alaskan Berries (SC) (WF) 3.5% (9-2-23)** -- Ok people, let's get these new Wonder Flavors test going !!!!!! Now, I will admit, when I saw this name, wondering which Alaskan Berry/ies they meant, as there are more than a few. This flavor was very unique, and not easily identifiable, nor comparable which made it interesting to test. Overall, my BEST comparison would be a medley of a red currant, and red raspberry. That's close, but still not 100% accurate, but you get the idea. At a few ticks below mid level sweet, and plenty strong at 3.5%, those two main profiles stuck in my head from beginning to end. There was a nice almost tart, maybe slightly fermented kicker on the finish that was a nice touch. At times, I thought I caught just a WHIFF of florals, but as soon as I did, they were gone, so we'll chalk it up to "floral-free" overall. It presented as fairly "red" to my tastes, and hence my fruit comparisons. Because it was unique, and didn't fully encompass either a currant or r. raspberry it could be used in an entire plethora of fruit mixes. It tasted very natural, and with only the very slight whiff of a floral randomly, would be the only nitpicking here. An interestingly new fruit flavor IMO, and good tasting. It's great to start out a series, with a NEW flavor, that isn't/wasn't like any other. I'm going to leave this one high because of that, and with only the one slight nitpick, it felt solid at **9.0/10**.
**Black Currant Gummy Candy (SC) (WF) 3.5% (9-3-23)** -- I seem to have a currant problem, i.e. I can't get ENOUGH good currants, so I was looking forward to this one. Out of the gate, I got a pretty good currant, and I didn't get any of my typical "red" notes, but the currant-ed-ness was still there. It wasn't overly sharp, and didn't have much tart to it, and it def. leaned towards the "candy" side (duh). The paired candy notes, worked very well, and even while being above mid-level sweet, it wasn't cloyingly sweet.
Now onto the "gummy", hehe. I didn't really get much gummy from this one, and it seemed much more slanted towards a hard/squishy candy, than a gummy. I think "gummy" notes/nuances are very hard to quantify, BUT, you know them, if you taste them. I just didn't get the overhwelming sense of the gummy in this one. Maybe a hint, but that would be it. Because it was fairly heavily candied, the Black Currant tasted almost at a 50/50 mix of natural/artificial. If I had to change ONE thing, I would probably have UPPED the BC, just a bit. All in, a damned fine Black Currant "candy", but it might leave some of your "gummy" needs waiting at the door. At 3.5% it was full, but not overpowering, and could be said to be just a touch relaxed, and I got no off-notes with this one. About my only nitpicks would be the somewhat lighter BC, and very light gummy-ness. The flavor was very good, and rating it was somewhat tricky, but it felt good at **7.5/10**
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**Bread (Ginger) (SC) (WF) 3.5% (9-3-23)** -- Coming off the Ginger Beer, I was curious to see what they did with the ginger in this one. The good news is, it was completely different in this flavor. Much more of a baked ginger, and with some great molasses thrown in for good measure. Riding underneath both of them, was a very realistic dark cookie. Not overly sweet, and actually quite a bit below mid-level at that. At 3.5% it felt like it was maybe 75% of the way there, and maybe a hint more would fix it. The dark cookie, paired with the molasses was quite impressive, and realistic, and almost "crunchy". The ginger was placed well in between the molasses and cookie elements. There was/were some light spices in there as well, but I couldn't fully identify them. Like the Ginger Beer, there was a little TH, and bite with this one, BUT, at far lower levels, and I had to fight the urge to pair it up with some creams, and maybe a dash of sweetener, BUT, staying focused here. All in, with no off-notes, and only just a slight "bite", no real take-offs, or off-notes, and it continued to be impressive, and authentic throughout. A well played flavor. Leaving it high, at an authentic **9.1/10**.
**Buttercream (Strawberry Banana) (SC) (WF) 3.5% (9-4-23)** -- Sometimes things work, and others ..... This one perplexed me during the Alpha testing, and continued to do so here. A ripe banana greeted you on the front end, and then a creamy/creamery carrier rode you through the middle, with MAYBE a smidge of Strawberry on the finish. The cream, to my tastes, didn't really present as a butter cream, BUT, that is/was subjective. It came across as rather "hodge-podge-y" to me, and rather, lacked a clear focus. It was full at 3.5%, and there were no off-notes, and it stayed a few ticks below mid-level sweet. The ripened banana was actually pretty good, but when tempered with the cream, and very light strawberry, I just couldn't 100% get behind it. Tasty, different, just presented in a confusing way to my tastes. I can't see using it as a primary, but there could be a lot of good uses as a mixer for sure. In the end, I'm tallying this one up as a creamy, ripe banana, with a hint of Strawberry. Fairly placing this at a **6.5/10**.
**Testing Setup (as always):**
Running these tests, on my SteamCrave RDTA v.1, with dual vertical kanthal, 24 ga. single wire coils, with fresh cotton and dry burned coils before every test. These flavors were steeped a bit past 1 week, and were all mixed/tested @ 3.5%, and in a 70v/30p/3mg carrier @ 65 watts.
**Alaskan Berries (SC) (WF) 3.5% (9-2-23)** -- Ok people, let's get these new Wonder Flavors test going !!!!!! Now, I will admit, when I saw this name, wondering which Alaskan Berry/ies they meant, as there are more than a few. This flavor was very unique, and not easily identifiable, nor comparable which made it interesting to test. Overall, my BEST comparison would be a medley of a red currant, and red raspberry. That's close, but still not 100% accurate, but you get the idea. At a few ticks below mid level sweet, and plenty strong at 3.5%, those two main profiles stuck in my head from beginning to end. There was a nice almost tart, maybe slightly fermented kicker on the finish that was a nice touch. At times, I thought I caught just a WHIFF of florals, but as soon as I did, they were gone, so we'll chalk it up to "floral-free" overall. It presented as fairly "red" to my tastes, and hence my fruit comparisons. Because it was unique, and didn't fully encompass either a currant or r. raspberry it could be used in an entire plethora of fruit mixes. It tasted very natural, and with only the very slight whiff of a floral randomly, would be the only nitpicking here. An interestingly new fruit flavor IMO, and good tasting. It's great to start out a series, with a NEW flavor, that isn't/wasn't like any other. I'm going to leave this one high because of that, and with only the one slight nitpick, it felt solid at **9.0/10**.
**Black Currant Gummy Candy (SC) (WF) 3.5% (9-3-23)** -- I seem to have a currant problem, i.e. I can't get ENOUGH good currants, so I was looking forward to this one. Out of the gate, I got a pretty good currant, and I didn't get any of my typical "red" notes, but the currant-ed-ness was still there. It wasn't overly sharp, and didn't have much tart to it, and it def. leaned towards the "candy" side (duh). The paired candy notes, worked very well, and even while being above mid-level sweet, it wasn't cloyingly sweet.
Now onto the "gummy", hehe. I didn't really get much gummy from this one, and it seemed much more slanted towards a hard/squishy candy, than a gummy. I think "gummy" notes/nuances are very hard to quantify, BUT, you know them, if you taste them. I just didn't get the overhwelming sense of the gummy in this one. Maybe a hint, but that would be it. Because it was fairly heavily candied, the Black Currant tasted almost at a 50/50 mix of natural/artificial. If I had to change ONE thing, I would probably have UPPED the BC, just a bit. All in, a damned fine Black Currant "candy", but it might leave some of your "gummy" needs waiting at the door. At 3.5% it was full, but not overpowering, and could be said to be just a touch relaxed, and I got no off-notes with this one. About my only nitpicks would be the somewhat lighter BC, and very light gummy-ness. The flavor was very good, and rating it was somewhat tricky, but it felt good at **7.5/10**
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**Bread (Ginger) (SC) (WF) 3.5% (9-3-23)** -- Coming off the Ginger Beer, I was curious to see what they did with the ginger in this one. The good news is, it was completely different in this flavor. Much more of a baked ginger, and with some great molasses thrown in for good measure. Riding underneath both of them, was a very realistic dark cookie. Not overly sweet, and actually quite a bit below mid-level at that. At 3.5% it felt like it was maybe 75% of the way there, and maybe a hint more would fix it. The dark cookie, paired with the molasses was quite impressive, and realistic, and almost "crunchy". The ginger was placed well in between the molasses and cookie elements. There was/were some light spices in there as well, but I couldn't fully identify them. Like the Ginger Beer, there was a little TH, and bite with this one, BUT, at far lower levels, and I had to fight the urge to pair it up with some creams, and maybe a dash of sweetener, BUT, staying focused here. All in, with no off-notes, and only just a slight "bite", no real take-offs, or off-notes, and it continued to be impressive, and authentic throughout. A well played flavor. Leaving it high, at an authentic **9.1/10**.
**Buttercream (Strawberry Banana) (SC) (WF) 3.5% (9-4-23)** -- Sometimes things work, and others ..... This one perplexed me during the Alpha testing, and continued to do so here. A ripe banana greeted you on the front end, and then a creamy/creamery carrier rode you through the middle, with MAYBE a smidge of Strawberry on the finish. The cream, to my tastes, didn't really present as a butter cream, BUT, that is/was subjective. It came across as rather "hodge-podge-y" to me, and rather, lacked a clear focus. It was full at 3.5%, and there were no off-notes, and it stayed a few ticks below mid-level sweet. The ripened banana was actually pretty good, but when tempered with the cream, and very light strawberry, I just couldn't 100% get behind it. Tasty, different, just presented in a confusing way to my tastes. I can't see using it as a primary, but there could be a lot of good uses as a mixer for sure. In the end, I'm tallying this one up as a creamy, ripe banana, with a hint of Strawberry. Fairly placing this at a **6.5/10**.