Nicotine and Caffeine

[devilbedamned]

If you take out smoking from the equation, is it fair to say that they can both be considered similar in the sense that both are mild stimulants?

With caffeine, going cold turkey usually means you are fully functional after a week. How does this compare to going cold turkey on nicotine? How long before you physically stop feeling the need to consume nicotine (ignoring psychological dependence).

Is there even a need to quit though, assuming your choice of intake is a healthier alternative such as vaping or nic gums?

 

[Rickster]

This is too deep, assuming the shallow end is indeed where it's supposed to be as a starting point I would dive in at the deep end...come what may.

 

[Kezza1.0]

I have no idea. Sorry. But I gave up coffee for about a fortnight once. At no stage was I 'fully functional' until I had a coffee.

 

[devilbedamned]

I have no idea. Sorry. But I gave up coffee for about a fortnight once. At no stage was I 'fully functional' until I had a coffee.

Oh. It took a week for me to get over the initial headaches and extra drowsiness. Then I went back to my tea, because the only reason I had quit was to re-explore the awesomeness of caffeine

 

[Leni]

If you take out smoking from the equation, is it fair to say that they can both be considered similar in the sense that both are mild stimulants?

More or less. It'd be quite interesting to see a proper scientific analysis of the different effects of the two, with the smoking element removed.

How long before you physically stop feeling the need to consume nicotine (ignoring psychological dependence).

I have no idea. However, I don't believe you can separate physical and psychological dependence. I don't think human beings work like that: the two factors are completely intertwined imo.

Is there even a need to quit though, assuming your choice of intake is a healthier alternative such as vaping or nic gums?

For some people there are medical reasons they need to quit. By that I mean they have a condition, and doctors have told them that nicotine use could be life-threatening. For the rest of us, I guess it's a personal choice we make about how we live. Healthier doesn't mean healthy.

 

[devilbedamned]

True that @Leni. Psychological dependence in general may very well be the dominant force.

 

[Leni]

True that @Leni. Psychological dependence in general may very well be the dominant force.

I don't distinguish between the two factors. A person's psychology is made up of thought processes. Thought processes originate in the brain: they are the product of biology. More specifically, they are very much affected by neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine, which in turn, are very much affected by nicotine. So, *for tonight at least, I am rejecting dualism in all it's forms, and saying a resolute Non! to Cartesian unscientific bollocks


* I reserve the right to change my mind tomorrow, when I'm not (a little) high on pain meds

 

[Kezza1.0]

Oooooooh you made me look into Cartesian dualism. Thanks!