Perfume

[DarthVaperUK]

Flavours are cheap enough to buy....and there is pretty much any flavour you can think of...use these to mix something unique

Dont risk your health messing with chemicals that you plan to inhale if you don't have the confidence and knowledge, you don't seem to know a lot about vaping flavour concentrates. Neither do I! That's why I let the masters create the flavours for me to use, then I can mix them with others to make what I desire.

Vaping concentrates are a hell of a lot stronger than those flavouring concentrates you can pick up at your local supermarket.

Get yourself say 20 or so flavours and some nic base and also dikuent of choice. Don't just get standard flavours if your wanting to create something unique. Get a flavour you have never heard of etc and also get flavours like pie crust and malted milk extra etc an build on those.

Bryan will probably have a more informative post about how you can make your an flavours....but if not, then I would recommend talking to decadent vapours or flavourarts

Didn't mean to come across as a bastard at the beginning, its just very serious and you should consider what your going to be inhaling into your lungs and putting in your body

 

[Fad]

Get yourself say 200 or so flavours and some nic base and also diluent of choice.....

I fixed that for you

 

[DarthVaperUK]

Lol I thought 200 was a little pricey to start up with :38:

 

[Merino-Teflon]

Didn't mean to come across as a bastard at the beginning, its just very serious and you should consider what your going to be inhaling into your lungs and putting in your body

It's all good advice, just having over-enthusiastic ideas, definitely will get into mixing my own with the plethora of flavours out there, though even here, I will start off with simple virginia, desert ships, menthols, etc, to get the ball rolling, baby steps and all that. Until I learn how to distill...happiness...not really, vanilla cyanide though, there's an option.

 

[Fad]

Although there are hundreds of flavours available, I would imagine most people quickly discover which direction they prefer to head in regarding flavour groups & types....so it`s not always as daunting as it can first appear once you know you can rule out certain types that you`re not so keen on...

 

[Merino-Teflon]

I already know that if my desert ship from jacvapour is pretty standard, I could vape that happily for an age, it has a subtle nuttiness I really enjoy, and looking at another thread, I was almost tempted to get the Alice In Vapeland juice that involves green tea...I am sure there must be, and probably are, good things that could be done with herb/spice type tastes, like lemongrass, or even cumin and coriander, etc...

 

[McAldo]

I think, like you say, there are plenty of nice things one might do and try from raw ingredients.
But the art of extracting, or replicating, taste and flavour from these is a complicated science.
The thing about 'natural' extracts is that you are interested into aromatics and other compounds contributing to the taste.
Not in numerous other things which will end up in your juice nonetheless.
And your digestive system is one thing, your lungs another one entirely, when it comes to the ability to process and/or get rid of toxic or otherwise life shortening substances. And the flavour concentration required in vaping is much higher than in other applications.
Evolution made us fit to withstand exposure to airborne contaminants, of course, but modern things, including vaping, have created occasions for exposure to a much wider range natural selection hasn't proofed us against.
And inhalation offers direct access to the blood stream to many compounds, nicotine being only one.

As already mentioned, the range of flavours available is massive. You can extract and steep too, but that carries a risk, particularly if you don't know what you are doing.
Bryan123456 is doing a great job of reviewing flavours, perhaps you could start reading his reviews and scout for more, what you are looking for might be there already.

 

[Bryan123456]

Things you can steep at home to use as flavourings:

1) Tobacco leaves - but they must be properly cured by the supplier as the curing process removes the naturally present ammonia that can kill you or damage your lungs. When you have steeped you need to filter
2) Vanilla pods - it gives a natural lush flavour, but again you need to filter
3) Coffee grounds - either warmed up and reduced or fresh - lots of filtering needed and it can be messy.

Things you can buy in crystal form to mix in solution (PG, de-ionised water or a good clean, drinkable grain alcohol - Vodka in the Uk - the higher the proof the better)

a) Ethyl Maltol crystals
b) Menthol crystals

Make sure you buy from a vaping supplier preferably and get UP or BPG. Not all menthol crystals are suitable for vaping.

Things you can mix up with care using PG or alcohol (as above) and a set of accurate scales

a) Malic Acid (source wine making suppliers) - it cracks cheap polycarbonate tanks though. Max at 20% in solution to add to e liquids (don't add more than 5% of the final solution to any juice.
b) Caffeine (make sure it is really pure) - a PG solution or dissolved into a coffee concentrate. Take note of the LDA on caffeine. I mix a 99.7% pure caffeine at 10% into an espresso concentrate - which I then use at 5%. It adds caffeine (not surprisingly) to the vape and also improves both vapour production and TH. Shake your flavour mix containing caffeine well before you add it to your base. When the base + flavour clears and starts reddening (it is red in coffee vapes), the caffeine is fully absorbed into your vape.
For both these I wear a simple breathing mask - there is some danger in inhaling the powder like crystals. I also wear nitrile gloves when handling crystals, powders and nicotine base.

Most food additives should be avoided:
(1) Because they are as weak as gnats pee compared to vape specific concentrates
(2) Because oils are evil things to vape in any form and the flavour houses confuse, because in their trade/art an oil is another name for a concentrate - so you sometimes don't know if something just contains water and concentrated flavour or water sunflower oil and concentrated flavour
(3) Some things that are fine to eat are really bad to vape. Diacetyl and quite a few of the things in butter cream and dairy products being key ones. If you want creams or similar - use Flavour Art or Perfumers Apprentice.
(4) PA 's US web site shows non safe vaping products and has some research
(5) Flavour Art (Italy)'s Clear Stream will provide a wealth of information

Having said all that, if you are using non aqueous VG in a mix and want vanilla or coffee the Nielsen Massey flavour extracts Coffee and Vanilla are some of the only good ones and state clearly on the bottle what's in them. Diluting neat VG with 10% Nielsen Massey Coffee extract will add water, alcohol and 2.5%% coffee to the final VG. So if you were working 50/50 PG VG final mix, you'd add 1.25% coffee. And, that can make a great flavour difference (it does) and the water and alcohol help produce more vapour.

I could go on a bit more, but don't want to bore you. There are some people on other sites (and probably on here too) who are far more knowledgeable than me.

 

[Merino-Teflon]

Thanks for the info guys. I got some de-ionized water and the supermarket had blue label smirnoff at a reduced price, so I got that too...I may be using the water only though, as the vodka has other, purely innocent, uses.
Regarding flavour creation, there really is so much stuff out there existing, as pointed out, that I think it will keep me occupied for a fair while yet, indeed.

 

[Bryan123456]

p.s. people get clever ideas about adding alcoholic drinks to vapes as a dilutant. Vodka is used because of its purity and lack of sugars. Whisky and brandy and other drinks are often naturally clear and coloured with caramel. Anything with sugar in it will produce sugar when vaped - and when passed over the hot wires of an atomizer with burn and caramelize. Caramelized atomizer does not make for good vaping.

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