Poss TPD implementation Spain

[tonystr]

Just got this news today and it dont look good for spain.

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[scrumpox]

What's the Spanish for OUCH! ?

At least they've enshrined in law that culturally everyone has a right to be gored to death by bulls.

 

[dw1986]

Spain is one of the most politically corrupt and bent countries in the EU, just do a quick google search, this really does not surprise me in the slightest. Few palms greased by big tobacco and here you go! The only thing that surprises me is that they haven't implemented it earlier...

 

[scrumpox]

Spain is one of the most politically corrupt and bent countries in the EU, just do a quick google search, this really does not surprise me in the slightest. Few palms greased by big tobacco and here you go! The only thing that surprises me is that they haven't implemented it earlier...

Judging from the implementation you cannot rule out corruption with Big Pharma either.

From the corruption stats you'd expect Italy to implement in a similar way. Scandinavian countries will also implement the TPD harshly but for not for corruption reasons, as they're amongst the least corrupt in the world.

 

[dw1986]

Judging from the implementation you cannot rule out corruption with Big Pharma either.

From the corruption stats you'd expect Italy to implement in a similar way. Scandinavian countries will also implement the TPD harshly but for not for corruption reasons, as they're amongst the least corrupt in the world.

Italy had already massively restricted vaping with an absolutely insane tax placed on nicotine and gear making juice vastly more expensive than cigarettes are over there- thank god their courts had seen sense and are reviewing it as a result of a legal challenge I believe

 

[scrumpox]

Italy had already massively restricted vaping with an absolutely insane tax placed on nicotine and gear making juice vastly more expensive than cigarettes are over there- thank god their courts had seen sense and are reviewing it as a result of a legal challenge I believe

Greased the wrong palms, eh?

 

[dw1986]

Greased the wrong palms, eh?

Not enough euros between the pages

 

[tonystr]

It's a bit hard to follow the translation but why do it? For public health? To protect the kiddies? NO. It must be down to corruption.

Those at the top, driven by greed, money, influence and power forget it's us they are supposed to serve not themselves. More likely they didn't even forget. Where are our rights, will we actually have any in the future? DISGRACEFUL

 

[Mawsley]

Spain is one of the most politically corrupt and bent countries in the EU, just do a quick google search, this really does not surprise me in the slightest. Few palms greased by big tobacco and here you go! The only thing that surprises me is that they haven't implemented it earlier...

I'd say it depends on the type of corruption you're looking at. The British school tie/Masonic style is equally insidious but less detectable - well, bar the wall of white public school males occupying almost every high-level post.

 

[scrumpox]

I'd say it depends on the type of corruption you're looking at. The British school tie/Masonic style is equally insidious but less detectable - well, bar the wall of white public school males occupying almost every high-level post.

The UN corruption stats and rankings are based on perceptions as much as evidence, perhaps more so. So the type of corruption you're talking about factors in heavily.

In 2013 the UK ranked 14 out of 175, way behind the Scandinavian countries ... way above Spain, ranked 40th and with their scores worsening.

Unless you only holiday in fully inclusive resorts, the public perceptions of corruption are palpable when you travel abroad. You only have to scratch the surface to find how rotten the underbelly is. As much as we love to whinge and moan about life in the UK, there's plenty worse places to live.