Reducing the sweetness of VG mixes

[Grumpish]

I use VG liquids as I get some nasty side effects with PG - slight bleeding of the gums with a 70/30 mix and by the time I get to a 50/50 mix I am getting some bleeding in my nose as well. Both clear within a couple of days of switching back to mixes where the only PG is whatever is in the flavourings

Which brings me to the next problem, which is that VG on it's own is very sweet to my taste, too sweet - so does anyone of reducing that sweetness? I am using Flavourart Bitter Wizard at 3% at the moment, which helps, but I suspect that much higher and it would start to swamp the other flavours (except for FA's Black Perique, I don't think anything could swamp that, I made the mistake of trying to vape that straight away and it tasted like an old ashtray - good after a few days steeping though).

 

[Johnnyboy]

Same as you, I use BW sometimes. I'm only at 35% VG though so not really a major issue for me. I wonder if thinning the VG with vodka would help - I have no experience of this, just a suggestion.

I'm surprised to hear that PG is causing the bleeding. Never heard that before.

 

[vaporsizer]

Too much PG messes with my mouth too & yes, i think it has made my gums bleed around the area my drip tip goes. Can't be 100% certain it's the pg doing it but it's deffo number one suspect. I moved onto 60/40 pg/vg for a while & that improved things. I'm now steeping liquids with a 50/50 mix for my next vapes.

 

[Ninjaassasin1983]

I use VG liquids as I get some nasty side effects with PG - slight bleeding of the gums with a 70/30 mix and by the time I get to a 50/50 mix I am getting some bleeding in my nose as well. Both clear within a couple of days of switching back to mixes where the only PG is whatever is in the flavourings

Which brings me to the next problem, which is that VG on it's own is very sweet to my taste, too sweet - so does anyone of reducing that sweetness? I am using Flavourart Bitter Wizard at 3% at the moment, which helps, but I suspect that much higher and it would start to swamp the other flavours (except for FA's Black Perique, I don't think anything could swamp that, I made the mistake of trying to vape that straight away and it tasted like an old ashtray - good after a few days steeping though).

liberty flights do souring flavours and masking flavours try those maybe
http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=15

 

[nathanstokes]

So I know that this is an extreeeeeeeemely old thread, but as it's asking a similar question to that which I was going to ask, I thought I'd bring it back to the top of the sub-forum.

In the 4+ years since it was created, has there been any improvements, changes, whatever to concentrates for reducing the sweetness of liquids? I haven't started DIYing yet, but one of my major complaints against pre-made liquids is that they're too sweet, and was wondering if there was anything I could add that wouldn't necessarily add flavour, but would round out some of the overbearingly sweet liquids that are available? Would Bitter Wizard (or anything else someone wants to suggest) achieve this, in tiny quantities, rather than say making the juice bitter (not looking for that either). I was thinking analogously to cooking tomato based pasta sauces where if it's a little too acidic, you add some brown sugar or dark chocolate, or if it's a little too sweet, you add some balsamic vinegar. In neither of those cases so you taste what's added, it just subtly alters the dominant flavours.

 

[nathanstokes]

Ah, this isn't in the DIY sub-forum, but the new user one. I'll go ask there instead. Apologies!