Temperature control dna

[simon23484]

I just don't seem to get it. I can't get a warm vape. I have a of 0.2 rafele coil in my crown 2 and another this one a real crown yellow coils about the same ohms. I set it to 600 degrees and 45 watts but just a cool vape. Yes no dry hits. Yes works at not burning cotton but I can't get a consistent warm vape I'm after. Is there some way to sort this please please as I want it to work. I have configured everything on Escribe and have the correct wire settings in for each materials profile. I found ni200 a bit warmer but getting very little of stainless. Increasing the watts does nothing as it just pulls back the power to stay at temp.
Help me please guys.

 

[Mr Numpty]

Build your own coils. A lot of the pre-made ones seem to be shit. You should be able to easily get as hot a vape as you want.

 

[simon23484]

Nice one. That's probably my issue. I'm using claptons in my other tanks and get a lovely warm vape. I've never built temp coils but got some stainless on the way.

 

[mikeyvapes21]

The DNA boards are very sentitve. Unlike most temp control devices, it reacts differently dependant on the material. For example in most TC mods you just set your temp and lock your resistance whether you have a 316 or Ni200 build. With a DNA chip, it fluctuates massively and the standard preheat pretty much burns the cotton regardless of the temp you set it to.

You need to remember to, the DNA boards were designed with temp control in mind and for avid vapers. As such you need to use escribe to make the most out of it.

I found with my DNA 200, I always use steam engine to find the temp graph for the build I have, download it then import it into escribe. Usually set it in the middle of hard and soft and preheat for 1 second at 50w.

If you're relatively new at this, lemme know and I'll post a tutorial.

 

[danb]

I just don't seem to get it. I can't get a warm vape. I have a of 0.2 rafele coil in my crown 2 and another this one a real crown yellow coils about the same ohms.

0.2 Ohm is really too low for SS in TC mode (very poor temp-sensing accuracy). It might work better with 0.5 Ohm (or higher). I use a 0.6-0.7 Ohm SS316 Clapton (in rebuildables) and it works fine.

A major cause of not being able to get a decent vape is too much (or too dense) wick (though in this situation it should be dry hitting at 600F), so rebuildables are generally a lot better because you can make sure they are not over-wicked.

The other possibility is that the coil is not correctly calibrated. What base resistance is the mod reading, close to the advertised 0.2 Ohm? Let it cool down and have the mod re-read the base resistance. If, for example, the mod has calibrated at 0.20 Ohm, but the actual base resistance is 0.22 Ohm, then the mod will massively overestimate the actual temp and still not get hot enough even set at 600F.

 

[simon23484]

I've got my settings on Escribe from djsb website which I believe are meant to be pretty good? A tutorial would be appreciated.
The coils reads 0.26 when cold if that helps and the main reason I'd like to get them working is a bought a shed load of the 0.2 rafele coils to use in my crown 2 for out and about vaping. At home I build my own (cheat a bit using pre mades) but until now have only really used Kanthal although I have some pre wound stainless on the slow boat from China.

 

[simon23484]

Also should I lock the resistance on the DNA or leave it?

 

[Tubbyengineer]

The DNA boards are very sentitve. Unlike most temp control devices, it reacts differently dependant on the material. For example in most TC mods you just set your temp and lock your resistance whether you have a 316 or Ni200 build. With a DNA chip, it fluctuates massively and the standard preheat pretty much burns the cotton regardless of the temp you set it to.

You need to remember to, the DNA boards were designed with temp control in mind and for avid vapers. As such you need to use escribe to make the most out of it.

I found with my DNA 200, I always use steam engine to find the temp graph for the build I have, download it then import it into escribe. Usually set it in the middle of hard and soft and preheat for 1 second at 50w.

If you're relatively new at this, lemme know and I'll post a tutorial.

I'm not sure where you get this from but it is completely wrong, I've never experienced any burning of the wick from preheat and preheat should not exceed the set temperature anyway. I use preheat set to 100w or 75w on the DNA75 and have it set at 6 which is the middle of the range.
A correctly built atomiser should give extremely stable temperature - as shown below (Heron using Stealthvapes Ti01)

I have noticed that SS316 is less stable on the graph but the experience is fairly consistent (Heron using Stealthvapes SS316)

When setting up your new DNA device take the time to check all the settings and to download all the wire types you're likely to use on to your mod, ensuring you clean out any duplicate entries for material types (I get rid of the standard profiles and replace them with ones from Steam Engine), Once youve done that take time to ensure you've got each of the 8 vaping profiles set how you want them and once you're sure everything is the way you want it upload to the device and save it as a "Standard" mod profile (BTW I always save the profile that the device comes set with as "Default modname profile".
Once you've done all that then providing you've built your atomiser correctly and connected it when cold then everything should work perfectly - time after time, day after day - I know I've vaped almost exclusively TC since the DNA40 came out, and have 5 DNA200's and 2 DNA75's...

 

[Mr Numpty]

Yep.

 

[Tubbyengineer]

I just don't seem to get it. I can't get a warm vape. I have a of 0.2 rafele coil in my crown 2 and another this one a real crown yellow coils about the same ohms. I set it to 600 degrees and 45 watts but just a cool vape. Yes no dry hits. Yes works at not burning cotton but I can't get a consistent warm vape I'm after. Is there some way to sort this please please as I want it to work. I have configured everything on Escribe and have the correct wire settings in for each materials profile. I found ni200 a bit warmer but getting very little of stainless. Increasing the watts does nothing as it just pulls back the power to stay at temp.
Help me please guys.

If you're getting a cold weak vape even at 600f and youre also getting the "Temp protected" message then the likelihood is that your wicking is at fault, TC needs far less wick and far more juice at the coil than Wattage vaping does. Try soaking your coils with juice and taking a couple of vapes in TC mode, if it starts out nice and warm then drops off as you vape it's likely that the wick IS the problem, try poking the wick with a pin to loosen it up and allow more juice to flow....