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Try not be as as stupid as me

Personally, I think they're a big improvement over the CE2.. although there are some folk who still swear by the CE2.

My biggest issue with the CE2 was leaking... this isn't something I've had a problem with using the Vivi Novas.
 
Ahh yeah .. ive used em before .. dont get on with them (the ce2! NOT the vendor! Cloud9 are excellent!)
 
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