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Vaping and Diabetes

I'm type 2 and asked my doctor about blood triglyceride levels given that my juice was 70-80VG. There was nothing which could be attributed to my last 3 years plus of vaping given my level readings in the past 6-7 years. But she was interested to find out more. Personally I doubt that inhaled glycerine would break down like ingested glycerine.

The only issue that concerns me is artery hardening by nicotine ... that'll exacerbate hypertension and circulation problems which isn't great for a diabetic. I'm going to keep dropping my daily intake.
 
But i don't mind if you want to pm me with any questions. I will try to help

Hi. Ive been tyoe 1 diabetic for about 18 years and dont know anyone else who is diabetic, I have been vaping for about 6 weeks and it doesnt seem to effect my sugars, maybe the cake does!! Haha! I dont have any questions but its good to know there is someone I can talk too :) recently saw my specialist and he was pleased I was off the ciggies, didnt seem to comment on any effects of me vaping.
 
Hi. Ive been tyoe 1 diabetic for about 18 years and dont know anyone else who is diabetic, I have been vaping for about 6 weeks and it doesnt seem to effect my sugars, maybe the cake does!! Haha! I dont have any questions but its good to know there is someone I can talk too :) recently saw my specialist and he was pleased I was off the ciggies, didnt seem to comment on any effects of me vaping.

Same for me after a few years of getting moaned at to stop smoking. I am just all round glad i don't smoke now.
what does make me laugh is when i get asked by a medical professional " do you smoke" and answer i used to but now i vape, then watch them trying to find something to say, it makes my day
 
Another one with type 1 here for 19 yrs and it does not seem to make any difference to my levels, i did keep a very close eye on them when i started vaping but now i don't even think about it.

crustyfolker how do you find the pump ???? i have been trying to get one but down here they just say no it costs to much so still injecting.
It would be intresting to know your thoughts on them.
thanks
 
Another one with type 1 here for 19 yrs and it does not seem to make any difference to my levels, i did keep a very close eye on them when i started vaping but now i don't even think about it.

crustyfolker how do you find the pump ???? i have been trying to get one but down here they just say no it costs to much so still injecting.
It would be intresting to know your thoughts on them.
thanks

Hi , well let me say this the pump is the best thing since sliced bread, i was injecting 5 times a day 3 long acting insulin injections and 3 injections ie 1 for each meal.
i was on 72 units a day just as long acting dose plus about 40-50 units a day for meals so well over 100 units per day, but i was finding myself ill all the time with very high sugars. What was happening was the long acting insulin breaks down over a matter of 8 to ten hours but due to the high amount i probably wasn't getting it all to absorb properly.

the 72 units is now replaced by about 27 units which the pump gives me each our over the hour and is tailored for different times of the day. i.e the dose is higher for some hours and lower for others depending on when as your needs differ. The pump requires filling and changing every 3 days so its one injection every 3 days rather than 5 a day. the pump allows you to eat when and how much you like. You just programme in your blood sugar and how much carbs you are eating and the pump will tell you the correct dose, it also adds or minus's depending on your blood suger, so if you are say 3 it would in my case minus 1 unit from the total so it will get me back to 6 but still give the correct dose for the remainder to break down the carbs, again this will depend on a ratio which for me alters depending on what time of day it is.
the downside of starting a pump is getting everything to balance, i suffered some severe hypo's at first due to the need to lower some of the amounts at various times of the day. obviously this can change as time goes on and excercise will also require a short adjustment to keep your sugar high enough.
the pump has given me the best control i have ever had apart from my first couple of years of Diabetes and in truth it is as close to a pancreas as can be for now. Injecting doesn't give you any freedom as you have to stick to set times and you push the whole amount in in one go rather than with the pump you can set the insulin to go in over the space of say half hour for food which is good with food that breaks down slower as it prevents you going low taking lucozade to put you right then finding by the next meal your blood sugar is now high due to the lucozade intake and the food instead of the food the insulin was meant to break down
there is probaly loads more to say about pump treatment but i will say you have no choice but test blood sugar 4 times a daymore if you feel low or high sugar.
an easy way to explain learning about the use of a pump that some people on the forum would understand is it is like learning how to use a smok xcube 2but it is worth learning because of the results and quality of control it gives.
would you like to ask anything more if so please do
 
Hi , well let me say this the pump is the best thing since sliced bread, i was injecting 5 times a day 3 long acting insulin injections and 3 injections ie 1 for each meal.
i was on 72 units a day just as long acting dose plus about 40-50 units a day for meals so well over 100 units per day, but i was finding myself ill all the time with very high sugars. What was happening was the long acting insulin breaks down over a matter of 8 to ten hours but due to the high amount i probably wasn't getting it all to absorb properly.

the 72 units is now replaced by about 27 units which the pump gives me each our over the hour and is tailored for different times of the day. i.e the dose is higher for some hours and lower for others depending on when as your needs differ. The pump requires filling and changing every 3 days so its one injection every 3 days rather than 5 a day. the pump allows you to eat when and how much you like. You just programme in your blood sugar and how much carbs you are eating and the pump will tell you the correct dose, it also adds or minus's depending on your blood suger, so if you are say 3 it would in my case minus 1 unit from the total so it will get me back to 6 but still give the correct dose for the remainder to break down the carbs, again this will depend on a ratio which for me alters depending on what time of day it is.
the downside of starting a pump is getting everything to balance, i suffered some severe hypo's at first due to the need to lower some of the amounts at various times of the day. obviously this can change as time goes on and excercise will also require a short adjustment to keep your sugar high enough.
the pump has given me the best control i have ever had apart from my first couple of years of Diabetes and in truth it is as close to a pancreas as can be for now. Injecting doesn't give you any freedom as you have to stick to set times and you push the whole amount in in one go rather than with the pump you can set the insulin to go in over the space of say half hour for food which is good with food that breaks down slower as it prevents you going low taking lucozade to put you right then finding by the next meal your blood sugar is now high due to the lucozade intake and the food instead of the food the insulin was meant to break down
there is probaly loads more to say about pump treatment but i will say you have no choice but test blood sugar 4 times a daymore if you feel low or high sugar.
an easy way to explain learning about the use of a pump that some people on the forum would understand is it is like learning how to use a smok xcube 2but it is worth learning because of the results and quality of control it gives.
would you like to ask anything more if so please do

Well thanks for a very good involvedi/informative answer to my Q, it seems that it may well be worth me having another chat to my doc about it all.
Again thank you for taking the time to answer so clearly.
I will (if its ok) pm you rather than spaming the OP's thread if i need any more info.
thanks
 
Well thanks for a very good involvedi/informative answer to my Q, it seems that it may well be worth me having another chat to my doc about it all.
Again thank you for taking the time to answer so clearly.
I will (if its ok) pm you rather than spaming the OP's thread if i need any more info.
thanks

You are welcome to pm me yes. the reason that they are being a bit funny about a pump is they cost £3000, each. i can't see why though, they are mini size box mod close to the phantus mini in sizewith some king of chipset in them lol
 
Well thanks for a very good involvedi/informative answer to my Q, it seems that it may well be worth me having another chat to my doc about it all.
Again thank you for taking the time to answer so clearly.
I will (if its ok) pm you rather than spaming the OP's thread if i need any more info.
thanks

It boils my piss this, if you meet the criteria for a pump, - you meet the criteria. Cost shouldn't really come into it ( though sadly it does).

Have another chat with your doc, but if you don't get anywhere, make contact with INPUT. It's a charity, that has Diabetes UK's support, and is set up to act as an advocacy service for people with diabetes that want pumps and don't get them.

They know all the right strings to pull. ;)

Is it provided by the NHS? - INPUTdiabetesINPUTdiabetes
 
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It boils my piss this, if you meet the criteria for a pump, - you meet the criteria. Cost shouldn't really come into it ( though sadly it does).

Have another chat with your doc, but if you don't get anywhere, make contact with INPUT. It's a charity, that has Diabetes UK's support, and is set up to act as an advocacy service for people with diabetes that want pumps and don't get them.

They know all the right strings to pull. ;)

Is it provided by the NHS? - INPUTdiabetesINPUTdiabetes


Hmm thanks for this info, my levels TBH are pretty good but my work can change from day to day so its quite hard to plan ahead and take the right amount of insulin. one day (well most days ) I'm just sat on my arse driving heavy plant but then you can get a breakdown or have to dig the tracks out and then they drop like a stone.
So its more of a case if a pump would suit my needs

thanks for the info
 
Hmm thanks for this info, my levels TBH are pretty good but my work can change from day to day so its quite hard to plan ahead and take the right amount of insulin. one day (well most days ) I'm just sat on my arse driving heavy plant but then you can get a breakdown or have to dig the tracks out and then they drop like a stone.
So its more of a case if a pump would suit my needs

thanks for the info

A pump would benefit you greatly as you could have your settings to use most of the time then when you are needed to exert yourself you just put your basal rate down by say 20-50 percent while doing the graft and then check sugr level after.
a lot of things are trial and error to begin with as everyone can need different amounts at different times, also meal time insulin has to be callorbrated i.e 1 unit to 10 grams of carbs might be right at lunch but you may need 1.5 units for 10 grams at breakfast thats an example by the way but everything clicks after a couple of weeks it is just a case of looking at blood sugar changes to find a pattern so insulin can be adjusted at a certain time to put things right , basal rate is similar to long acting insulin but is given throughout the day using short acting insulin ie novarapid, You probably are aware but always make sure you have either lucozade or coca cola on hand as these are the fastest at sorting out a hypo and you only should need 150 ml to raise your blood sugar enough
 
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