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Vaping destroys the immune system (apparently)

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Seen this floating around on a few websites, I'm sure the tabloids/BBC will pick it up soon:

http://arstechnica.co.uk/science/20...eds-of-immune-system-genes-regular-cigs-dont/

WASHINGTON—It’s widely assumed that swapping cigarette puffing for vapor huffing is better for health—after all, electronic cigarettes that heat up and atomize a liquid concoction can skip all the hazards of combustion and smoke. But researchers are still scrambling to understand the health effects of e-cig use (aka vaping) and to track down the variable and undisclosed components of those vaporized mixtures. The most recent data hints at unexpected health effects unique to e-cig use.

After comparing genetic information swabbed from the noses of smokers, vapers, and non-users of both, researchers found that smoking suppresses the activity of 53 genes involved in the immune system. Vaping also suppressed those 53 immune genes—along with 305 others. The results were presented Friday at the annual conference of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington.

Though research on the significance of that gene suppression is still ongoing, the initial results suggest that e-cig users may have compromised immune responses, making them potentially more vulnerable to infections and diseases.

“The gene expression changes we’re seeing are consistent with a modified immune response,” lead researcher Ilona Jaspers of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill told Ars. “Any time you change [the immune system], it's probably out of balance," she said, explaining that a hyper-immune response or a weak response is problematic. Whether the imbalance caused by e-cigs leads to boosted infection risks or other immune diseases, “we don’t know,” Jaspers added.

For the study, Jaspers and colleagues mined the noses of different groups of healthy people—around a dozen each of cigarette smokers, e-cigarette vapers, and people who didn’t use either. The researchers fit the volunteers into the three categories based on smoking “diaries” that they filled out for three weeks prior to nose-sampling. The researchers homed in on the schnoz because cellular and immune responses there can offer clues to those responses in the lungs, which are harder to sample, Jaspers noted.

Harvesting the genetic data from the participants, researchers looked at the activity of nearly 600 genes, all of which are related to controlling and mounting immune responses. Comparing smokers’ genetic information to that of non-users, the team found that the activity of 53 genes was dialed down in smokers collectively. Comparing e-cig users to smokers and non-users revealed the same dampened activity for those 53 genes but also 305 others—a total of 358 immune genes were muted in e-cig users’ noses.

In follow-up lab studies, Jaspers and colleagues tested e-cig liquid on immune cells from healthy volunteers. Specifically, the researchers collected immune cells, such as neutrophils and macrophages, that are responsible in part for swallowing up invading bacteria. When the cells were put into diluted solutions of different e-cigarette liquids, the cells weren’t as good at sucking in the microbes. The data, while preliminary, suggests that immune cells in e-cig users may be unable to prevent bacterial breaches, thus opening the gates to infection.

The researchers also looked at the gene-altering effects of different flavors of e-cigarettes on the cells in the delicate lining of the respiratory tract. The flavorings that seemed to have the most potent gene-altering effects were additives that taste like cinnamon—cinnamaldehyde—as well as butter flavors.

These flavorings are considered safe, Jaspers pointed out—but only for eating. The additives are categorized as generally recognized as safe (GRAS) for food and beverages, but they have never been tested for safety when inhaled, she adds. The point is driven home with one of the flavors, the butter-mimicking diacetyl. This flavor has been found in some e-cig flavorings, but it's known to cause bronchiolitis obliterans, a severe disease caused by scar tissue and inflammation built up deep in the lungs. The link was discovered years ago in food manufacturing, particularly microwave popcorn factory employees who developed “popcorn worker’s lung.”

A concerning factor in e-cig use is that it’s not well known what or how much flavor additives and components are in e-cigarette liquid, Jaspers said.

The concern was echoed by clinical pharmacologist Neal Benowitz of the University of California, San Francisco. “E-cigarettes are not one thing,” he said, noting that the devices, liquids, and flavorings vary widely. “We’re really in the beginning of understanding the toxicity.”

This post originated on Ars Technica
 
That's bollox.... I've been chain vaping for the last 3 years since I gave up the stinkies. I can't remember the last time I had even a common cold, at least 2 years ago. Maybe I've just been lucky but the workplace tearoom is often a crossfire of coughs and sneezes! From what I read above vaping has made my nose more susceptible to catching disease and infection. Yep... Bollox
 
I'm not sure I can take any article serious that considers popcorn lung an actual risk for vapers. (It's not)
 
Comparing e-cig users to smokers and non-users revealed the same dampened activity for those 53 genes but also 305 others—a total of 358 immune genes were muted in e-cig users’ noses.

This is the important information; it's the same as the diacetyl controversy. Where vaping gets slammed for something that is also prevalent in regular smoking (and with greater effect). If you were a long time smoker before you switched to vaping then you can expect around the same effect on your immune system as it did before.

I don't laud vaping around as health benefit personally and I don't expect vaping to answer all of the issues raised by smoking. Personally I'd like to see less pro-vape media advertising on the line of health as it opens us up to less of an attack.
 
But it's saying there is 305 more genes being muted than a smoker? Meaning it's muting more than a smoker. Am I misunderstanding the article ? @justthisguyyouknow

I don't consider vaping a health benefit either, but I also don't want to go back to smoking and die of lung cancer.
 
But it's saying there is 305 more genes being muted than a smoker? Meaning it's muting more than a smoker. Am I misunderstanding the article ? @justthisguyyouknow

I don't consider vaping a health benefit either, but I also don't want to go back to smoking and die of lung cancer.

That may be the case but if they were only looking at genes dampened by vapour there could be any number of genes affected by smoke that aren't being included in the research.

The "medicinal herb" movement in 'murica made me cringe to high heavens, if it worked for them then I can see why the vape community are somewhat trying the same tactics, it just seems dodgy and dishonest to me. I like that I'm not injesting smoke when I vape and will chirp the ingredients list when people say that I don't know what is in e-liquid but honestly beyond the base ingredients of vg/pg/nic&'flavourings' I really don't know what else goes into e-liquid, what actually makes up the flavourings? Are the ingredients in the flavourings safe? I want to know personally whether what I'm vaping is vegetarian or not as I try to keep animal consumption to necessity-food only (I avoid geletin sweets, wear vegetarian clothing and the like). (my favourite beer (guinness) used to be a dilemma but it's vegan now so it's cool).
 
beyond the base ingredients of vg/pg/nic&'flavourings' I really don't know what else goes into e-liquid, what actually makes up the flavourings? Are the ingredients in the flavourings safe?

This is a very good point, it's something I think the TPD actually got right, as it stands we have a "trust us" attitude from vendors, once they have to list ingredients then we will be in a better place. I'm not asking someone to give me the exact recipe and proportions of their premium liquid which would enable me to knock up a clone batch for a fraction of the price, but I would like to narrow down what is in particular liquids that irritate my throat/chest so in the future I'm not spending £15 on something that tasted fine in the shop, but when chain vaping leaves me feeling like I have just put out a fire at a car tyre factory.
 
It's TRUE ! My immune system has been attacking my own body since I started vapeing !
Oh,, wait.....
That's the MS caused that, not vapeing.
The facts are simple. ANY 'medical' studies that come out of the USA are BULLSHIT ! END OF. They are ALL based on an incorrect baseline of what is actually contained in eliquids, and that stems from nothing more than eliquid companies exploiting low tax on tobacco products in the US. :)
These 'studies' need to be taken with a very large pinch of salt. That may not be the best idea though, as the amount of salt needed may well be over the UK health service recommend daily allowance. :D
 
I'd like to see an official paper in a scientific journal that states that.
Otherwise it's just hearsay bullshit
 
Very small samples used, too.
I'm actually open to hearing studies on the impact of health of vaping, I really would like to know if it's damaging me. Probably won't stop me but at least I'm informed. I mean, is vaping more deadly than a bacon sandwich? What about that Diet Coke I drank last night...?

Just doesn't seem to be any decent quality research coming out that would be considered reliable.
 
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