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Sadly the greed of those making disposables and aiming them at the youth market has left vaping wide open to more legal restrictions.
 
Sadly the greed of those making disposables and aiming them at the youth market has left vaping wide open to more legal restrictions.
Also the greed of some vendors needs too change as well instead of coming out with tosh like if they didn't buy from us they would buy else where, load of horse shit I've heard, one & only reason certain vendors choose is pure greed.
 
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Sadly the greed of those making disposables and aiming them at the youth market has left vaping wide open to more legal restrictions.

If greed means a business decision to make money, so be it...
Where there's a market, then said market will be supplied wherever possible.. it's the way of the world...

But I don't buy that "aiming them at the youth market" in most cases with disposables (except the ones with cartoon-type characters on, but they don't seem to be that widely sold). The main examples anti-vape zealots list are "bright colours" and candy flavours as "aiming at the youth market", which I think are definitely spurious reasons.

The main reasons that youth will be more inclined to use disposables is due to them being more likely to be inherently lazy, have disposable income, and the convenience factor.
 
The main reasons that youth will be more inclined to use disposables is due to them being more likely to be inherently lazy, have disposable income, and the convenience factor.

It's because they're easy to use, not because the youth might be lazy, shit tons of adults must be lazy as well, because almost everyone is using them. Not forgetting that a child can be discreet with a D: finish it, bin it/ launch it, before going home to mum and dad, with no evidence of use, apart from smelling like a blackberry or mango.
 
.. shit tons of adults must be lazy as well...
Indeed.

Had another regular in yesterday -
"Are you gonna start using a real e-cig again then? They start at the price of 2 disposables these days..."
"Err.. well, I know I oughtta..."
"Why do you keep using disposables then?"
"Umm.. I dunno..." (said with sheepish look) "Maybe next time..."
 
I`m still in favour of control rather than a ban, I think banning disposables would just be lazy governance, there are restrictions in place that if properly enforced would see most if not all the problem go away.
It is a fact that there are would be smoking quitters whose first alternative is the disposable vape.
I dont know how the German government managed it but my argument against a tax on zero nicotine juice would be that it could be sold as face, leather or wood nourisher and take vaping out of the equation.
 
The whole palaver is not complicated though, is it?...
Ban disposables.
Ban tobacco.
Remove current restrictions on nicotine and tank size.
Going forward, capital punishment for black marketeers in disposables and tobacco.
Beer, one pence a pint...
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if these disposables are going stick around then few things need too change, like a removable battery for a start & the mickey mouse advertising & too stop just about any tom dick & harry selling them, yes i can dream as thats never going happen & on the whole most vendors are sensible, but most corner shops/market stalls dont give a shite its all about the £
 
Whatever solution is proposed I think it has to accept the fact that a) people love convenience and that b) businesses love making money. You can't really blame either for either.
 
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