Thank you! Now I know what my issue is.
I prefer vaping non-rta DTL tanks at low wattage, 2/3 closed air flow. unrestricted hit, not too much vapor.
Same setup won't work on a DTL RTAs, the first 2-3 second is unbearably harsh.
Now that I know what to look at; DTL RTAs have a much bigger funnel thing around the deck, there's too much air already in the chamber. I'm not getting a smaller cloud, just an more airy/flavorless but still big cloud.
I need to find a DTL rta with a very low and flat bell/funnel thingy and a narrow chimney ...which that's probably not a thing