Digiflavor Espresso coil rebuild?

[LionessVaporess]

I just got the Digiflavor Espresso 22 "Genesis" sub ohm tank, which claims to be "rebuildable" , and comes with re-wickable GVC Clapton coils with two resistance options (0.4 ohm or 0.2 ohm) There seems to be quite a lot of confusion over exactly what they mean by "rebuildable". It is obviously not a full rebuild (no build deck) Some say it is just re-wickable, and the rebuildable claim refers to that. I was assuming the coil heads were rebuildable as well. They are easy enough to take apart, and I have already done so with the 0.2 ohm since I can't use it anyway. So from this point, would it simply be a matter of deciding on a pre-made coil (or making my own) and "dropping" it into the head and reassembling? Forgive me if this sounds like a no brainier, but as a newbie, I don't want assuming I know too much to be my fatal mistake.

I have included a pic of the disassembled coil head, for reference if it helps any. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer

 

[Crewella]

Nope - 'rewickable' rather than 'rebuildable'. You are having to complete a circuit when fitting a new coil - one end to positive and one end to negative. I'm not saying it cannot be done, but I am saying you need to make sure you understand all that before you try!

This might help with wicking, and ask more questions if you're still tempted.

 

[LionessVaporess]

Nope - 'rewickable' rather than 'rebuildable'. You are having to complete a circuit when fitting a new coil - one end to positive and one end to negative. I'm not saying it cannot be done, but I am saying you need to make sure you understand all that before you try!

This might help with wicking, and ask more questions if you're still tempted.

Rewicking is no problem, and yes I do understand that I am completing a circuit, but I still believe this was meant to be a rebuildable coil head. Let me show you more in depth if I can. .

The little notches make it pretty simple to line up your coils I the correct placement. Also I cannot wrap my head around why they would splash the word "rebuildable" through out the description of this tank, if no part of it was actually rebuildable. Here's the info copied from GeekVape
"Digiflavor Espresso 22mm sub ohm tank is first rebuildable Sub-Ohm Tank which provides better flavor experience than traditional sub ohm tank.It comes
with GVC coil(Genisis Vertical Coil ).In addition,this tank is easy to rebuild."

"Features :
Rebuildable sub ohm tank
Leaking resistant
Comes with innovative GVC coil
Easy to rebuild"
It's that last little bit under Features that gets me..
*Rebuildable sub ohm tank*......*GVC coil easy to rebuild*
Of course I do understand that companies often twist their words a little to make things sound more appealing. It could simply mean that the wick can be "rebuilt" but even a newbie like me knows rewicking in NOT rebuilding. They could have also meant it could be "rebuilt" by swapping out the premade coil heads, and if that is the case, I must make the suggestion to them that they offer more than 2 coil options. Now neither of those two features are firsts in the vaping world, I know I've seen many other tanks with re-wickable and interchangeable coil heads. So how do they make the claim "first of it's kind, rebuildable sub ohm tank"??? But would a re-buildable coil head not be a first? I mean one that was actually meant to be rebuilt, not just one that some guy figured out in his basement and posted on YouTube. Then again, if this was the case, I suppose it would make more sense to find some type of instructions on how to do it (which I have yet to find) Maybe they originally intended to make it rebuildable but then realized that they would lose money on replacement coil sales, but then they forgot to take it out of their advertising. Or maybe I'm just trying to make sense of something that doesn't make sense.
Either way, if you managed to stay with me through all this rambling, you did mention "that's not saying it can't be done" So how would I go about doing this, and ensuring that my circuit is completed properly? Are there any limitations, other than what my mod can handle, on what type of coil I use?

 

[mattyk2010]

Rewicking is no problem, and yes I do understand that I am completing a circuit, but I still believe this was meant to be a rebuildable coil head. Let me show you more in depth if I can. .

The little notches make it pretty simple to line up your coils I the correct placement. Also I cannot wrap my head around why they would splash the word "rebuildable" through out the description of this tank, if no part of it was actually rebuildable. Here's the info copied from GeekVape
"Digiflavor Espresso 22mm sub ohm tank is first rebuildable Sub-Ohm Tank which provides better flavor experience than traditional sub ohm tank.It comes
with GVC coil(Genisis Vertical Coil ).In addition,this tank is easy to rebuild."

"Features :
Rebuildable sub ohm tank
Leaking resistant
Comes with innovative GVC coil
Easy to rebuild"
It's that last little bit under Features that gets me..
*Rebuildable sub ohm tank*......*GVC coil easy to rebuild*
Of course I do understand that companies often twist their words a little to make things sound more appealing. It could simply mean that the wick can be "rebuilt" but even a newbie like me knows rewicking in NOT rebuilding. They could have also meant it could be "rebuilt" by swapping out the premade coil heads, and if that is the case, I must make the suggestion to them that they offer more than 2 coil options. Now neither of those two features are firsts in the vaping world, I know I've seen many other tanks with re-wickable and interchangeable coil heads. So how do they make the claim "first of it's kind, rebuildable sub ohm tank"??? But would a re-buildable coil head not be a first? I mean one that was actually meant to be rebuilt, not just one that some guy figured out in his basement and posted on YouTube. Then again, if this was the case, I suppose it would make more sense to find some type of instructions on how to do it (which I have yet to find) Maybe they originally intended to make it rebuildable but then realized that they would lose money on replacement coil sales, but then they forgot to take it out of their advertising. Or maybe I'm just trying to make sense of something that doesn't make sense.
Either way, if you managed to stay with me through all this rambling, you did mention "that's not saying it can't be done" So how would I go about doing this, and ensuring that my circuit is completed properly? Are there any limitations, other than what my mod can handle, on what type of coil I use?

The whole rebuildable angle could just be bad English by a Chinese company as its not the first time a language barrier has seen them do something stupid with marketing, i cant comment on if i could build it or how it could be done because your pictures are not loading for me on the mobile app but if you can see some way of securing your legs down so they don't move when the coil heats and expands and cause a short then i say its worth a try because its only your time and a bit of wire you will waste if it cant be done but at least you will have a answer to the question [emoji4]

 

[LionessVaporess]

The whole rebuildable angle could just be bad English by a Chinese company as its not the first time a language barrier has seen them do something stupid with marketing, i cant comment on if i could build it or how it could be done because your pictures are not loading for me on the mobile app but if you can see some way of securing your legs down so they don't move when the coil heats and expands and cause a short then i say its worth a try because its only your time and a bit of wire you will waste if it cant be done but at least you will have a answer to the question [emoji4]

See, that's exactly the thing I was trying to show you in the pics. The whole thing was built with removeable end caps, that fit just right to hold the legs securely into the notches I was talking about. I was thinking about just buying an assorted pack of premade coils to check it out, that way I at least know the coils I'm putting in there are properly made, since I've never done that before either.

 

[Crewella]

Rewicking is no problem, and yes I do understand that I am completing a circuit, but I still believe this was meant to be a rebuildable coil head. Let me show you more in depth if I can. .

The little notches make it pretty simple to line up your coils I the correct placement. Also I cannot wrap my head around why they would splash the word "rebuildable" through out the description of this tank, if no part of it was actually rebuildable. Here's the info copied from GeekVape
"Digiflavor Espresso 22mm sub ohm tank is first rebuildable Sub-Ohm Tank which provides better flavor experience than traditional sub ohm tank.It comes
with GVC coil(Genisis Vertical Coil ).In addition,this tank is easy to rebuild."

"Features :
Rebuildable sub ohm tank
Leaking resistant
Comes with innovative GVC coil
Easy to rebuild"
It's that last little bit under Features that gets me..
*Rebuildable sub ohm tank*......*GVC coil easy to rebuild*
Of course I do understand that companies often twist their words a little to make things sound more appealing. It could simply mean that the wick can be "rebuilt" but even a newbie like me knows rewicking in NOT rebuilding. They could have also meant it could be "rebuilt" by swapping out the premade coil heads, and if that is the case, I must make the suggestion to them that they offer more than 2 coil options. Now neither of those two features are firsts in the vaping world, I know I've seen many other tanks with re-wickable and interchangeable coil heads. So how do they make the claim "first of it's kind, rebuildable sub ohm tank"??? But would a re-buildable coil head not be a first? I mean one that was actually meant to be rebuilt, not just one that some guy figured out in his basement and posted on YouTube. Then again, if this was the case, I suppose it would make more sense to find some type of instructions on how to do it (which I have yet to find) Maybe they originally intended to make it rebuildable but then realized that they would lose money on replacement coil sales, but then they forgot to take it out of their advertising. Or maybe I'm just trying to make sense of something that doesn't make sense.
Either way, if you managed to stay with me through all this rambling, you did mention "that's not saying it can't be done" So how would I go about doing this, and ensuring that my circuit is completed properly? Are there any limitations, other than what my mod can handle, on what type of coil I use?

I now only build my own coils, and I started by rebuilding stock coils myself, so that's why 'that's not saying it can't be done'. I'd start on YouTube and just watch a load of videos on coil building so you get the basics before looking at your coil specifically, and make sure you understand ohms and what you're aiming for in a coil. And, personally, I wouldn't bother with buying pre-made coils, I'd just buy the wire and make them yourself as the hardest part is fitting the coil and not making them in the first place.

What ohms are the coils you've been using?

 

[mattyk2010]

See, that's exactly the thing I was trying to show you in the pics. The whole thing was built with removeable end caps, that fit just right to hold the legs securely into the notches I was talking about. I was thinking about just buying an assorted pack of premade coils to check it out, that way I at least know the coils I'm putting in there are properly made, since I've never done that before either.

I've just watched the video crewella posted and i see the notches your talking about but the thing is the coils you buy will need the wire to be as thick as the original but not thicker because thinner and your wire will fall out and thicker it wont go in, then your gonna need some drill bits to measure the internal dia of the coil that's fitted already and buy coils the same, plus any premade coils you buy will need to be stretched out to fit the housing dont go trying to fit a contact coil because you wont be able to get rid of any hotspots but yeah worth a go even if its going to be frustrating [emoji3]

 

[Crewella]

I've just watched the video crewella posted and i see the notches your talking about but the thing is the coils you buy will need the wire to be as thick as the original but not thicker because thinner and your wire will fall out and thicker it wont go in, then your gonna need some drill bits to measure the internal dia of the coil that's fitted already and buy coils the same, plus any premade coils you buy will need to be stretched out to fit the housing dont go trying to fit a contact coil because you wont be able to get rid of any hotspots but yeah worth a go even if its going to be frustrating [emoji3]

I want to have a go now .... I don't even sub-ohm ..........

 

[mattyk2010]

I want to have a go now .... I don't even sub-ohm ..........

Looks easy compared to the little fiddly buggers back in the day [emoji3] i wanna go too

 

[LionessVaporess]

Rewicking is no problem, and yes I do understand that I am completing a circuit, but I still believe this was meant to be a rebuildable coil head. Let me show you more in depth if I can. .

The little notches make it pretty simple to line up your coils I the correct placement. Also I cannot wrap my head around why they would splash the word "rebuildable" through out the description of this tank, if no part of it was actually rebuildable. Here's the info copied from GeekVape
"Digiflavor Espresso 22mm sub ohm tank is first rebuildable Sub-Ohm Tank which provides better flavor experience than traditional sub ohm tank.It comes
with GVC coil(Genisis Vertical Coil ).In addition,this tank is easy to rebuild."

"Features :
Rebuildable sub ohm tank
Leaking resistant
Comes with innovative GVC coil
Easy to rebuild"
It's that last little bit under Features that gets me..
*Rebuildable sub ohm tank*......*GVC coil easy to rebuild*
Of course I do understand that companies often twist their words a little to make things sound more appealing. It could simply mean that the wick can be "rebuilt" but even a newbie like me knows rewicking in NOT rebuilding. They could have also meant it could be "rebuilt" by swapping out the premade coil heads, and if that is the case, I must make the suggestion to them that they offer more than 2 coil options. Now neither of those two features are firsts in the vaping world, I know I've seen many other tanks with re-wickable and interchangeable coil heads. So how do they make the claim "first of it's kind, rebuildable sub ohm tank"??? But would a re-buildable coil head not be a first? I mean one that was actually meant to be rebuilt, not just one that some guy figured out in his basement and posted on YouTube. Then again, if this was the case, I suppose it would make more sense to find some type of instructions on how to do it (which I have yet to find) Maybe they originally intended to make it rebuildable but then realized that they would lose money on replacement coil sales, but then they forgot to take it out of their advertising. Or maybe I'm just trying to make sense of something that doesn't make sense.
Either way, if you managed to stay with me through all this rambling, you did mention "that's not saying it can't be done" So how would I go about doing this, and ensuring that my circuit is completed properly? Are there any limitations, other than what my mod can handle, on what type of coil I use?

The only options available with this tank are 0.2 ohm (which won't even fire up on my 40w mod) and 0.4 ohm. The 0.4 works okay, but I feel like it's draining my battery a lot faster than the 0.5 that came with the original tank. Unfortunately, I broke the glass and haven't been able to get a replacement yet or I would switch back for now.