Definitely one of the best threads on here, very much appreciated!!! Have always used darkstar for nic, chefs vapable and rainbowvapes for concentrates ans vg pg have tried lucemill lubrisolve and darrant, darrant are hopeless and in effect dangerous as they sell some pretty harmful stuff, and in the order i had with them they actually sent the wrong stuff... iso propyl alcohol instead of pg, no reply refund or exchange... lucemill are good but they should really package better, lubrisolve no issue at all, will probably try out darkstars vg when i finally get round to ordering my nic stash!!!!