Dry burning coils, Dr Farsalinos.

[vaporsizer]

There are plenty of things in life that i don't want to hear but i even worse is sticking my head in the sand. If he or anyone else can come up with a factual analysis of what quantities of metal we are inhaling, how harmful they are & what the potential consequences are then i'm open to it.

My own take on it, yes, we are changing the structure of the metal by dry burning it red hot & that is the entire reason for doing it, so it changes shape to suit us. There is only so much metal in one coil & by the time we have finished our build some of that is either released or reset. My old coils are still complete although somewhat diminished so obviously we are consuming some metal. Over a prolonged period it isn't hard to imagine that it could pose a health issue. How much of one & what type ? Anyones guess right now.
& to quote his closing comment...

We will repeat our honest opinion that dry-burning the coils will not make vaping similar or worse than smoking. This is clear and there is no need for over-reactions. However, we should reach to a point that e-cigarettes should not just be compared to smoking (which is an extremely bad comparator) but should be evaluated on absolute terms. If something can be avoided, vapers should be aware of it so that they can avoid it if they want to.

 

[vaporsizer]

What about when crimping (or whatever the proper word is) coils then? You can't do it without heating them and it makes them neater and heat more evenly.

He's providing us with the info, we make our own choice. In the end if you, i or anyone still does it then it's nobody elses fault. There isn't a real need to do it, more of a want really I want to !

 

[Mawsley]

What about when crimping (or whatever the proper word is) coils then? You can't do it without heating them and it makes them neater and heat more evenly.

Knowledge of the construction of the wires and their oxidised products informs my choice to use genuine high quality Kanthal over the alternatives. It is why I avoid long term use of inferior products because I know the standard of metal used is inferior to the steel found in more expensive items. The research I've carried out looking at wick types draws me to use certain types over others.

But there is no "safe", there is only informed choice and levels of wilful ignorance.

You make your own choices in life. Mine is not to be slightly bothered about perceived increased health risks due to pulsing and crimping a coil.

 

[scrumpox]

I love the common sense of it. Of course moderation is best if you're going to do it at all, of course going to extremes will be more harmful.
Of course we make better decisions when we're informed.

... and it's Thursday, mixed grill night. Fried eggs or scrambled ...?

 

[daleson]

So were do you think the metal particals go when you open a tin of beans etc .I know its not lungs but its ingested

 

[oldhippydude]

What about when crimping (or whatever the proper word is) coils then? You can't do it without heating them and it makes them neater and heat more evenly.

But if you choose, you can make spaced coils and not crimp.

For me I could happily build spaced coils but giving up dry burning for cleaning would be a hassle if it meant building loads more coils.

For now i will carry on as usual but do not rule out changing my habits in the future with more information.

It is for everyone to decide for themselves and I for one appreciate any information that helps me decide for myself.

 

[cloudcuckoo]

I love the common sense of it. Of course moderation is best if you're going to do it at all, of course going to extremes will be more harmful.
Of course we make better decisions when we're informed.

... and it's Thursday, mixed grill night. Fried eggs or scrambled ...?

Its wednesday, feeling lazy we plumped for jacket spuds.

And scrambled, fried eggs can be such a gamble.

 

[schlinky]

... and it's Thursday, mixed grill night.

I knew you'd get that time machine sorted in the end

 

[scrumpox]

I knew you'd get that time machine sorted in the end

I've seen the future ... no coils, no wicks ... juice injection with piezoelectronic evaporation ... self-cleaning ceramic chamber ... user dials in cloud production from cirrus to cumulonimbus ... 8000 mah battery recharges through QI with long range ports in every hotel, garage, bank and coffee shop.
Vaping becomes mandatory through the EU Commission as it has been scientifically proven beyond all doubt to extend life expectancy by 10 years. Pig farming becomes the new football with massive, worldwide TV sponsorship. Denmark finally becomes a economic superpower. The world is finally rid of all religions, feng shui and superstitious belief and porn stars settle international border disputes with fuckfests and ladyboy table tennis tournaments at the new United Nations HQ in Pataya.