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Got myself another new device, and after some coil and battery advice please!

Russell

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Morning folks

I've had a few devices now, and I think I'm starting to figure out what I like finally!

Go easy on me here, as I've only been vaping 8 months or so, as there's so much info online and much of it is personal preference, and I've also been told and sold various things by various shops, so trying to figure out what I like and what works for me has taken a while so far.

Started on a small TECC MTL device - got fed up with the filling faff with this. Got an eGrip2 which I liked, but again, filling was easier, but messy. This was my first experience with this particular type of coil and didn't really like it. It seemed to spit a lot, or give dry hits initially. Thought it was just me being a noob to be honest. Still going on the MTL route at this point, then got a COV mod (the little one...name escapes me) with an Aspire Nautilus X tank and 1.5ohm coil. Pretty good, no real issues other than I quite liked a larger tank (didn't realise an extender was available at this point). Found myself a Joyetech eVic AIO with a larger capacity tank, looked nice, etc. Should've cut my losses and jsut binned the old coils from the eGrip2, as this was one of the reasons I bought this eVic - as it uses the same.

Discovered that if you tightened down the mouthpiece/coil chimney even slightly too much, it gave problems with the juice flow it seems. All was good for a few months.

The tank seal than started leaking too. Despite getting sent a replacement tank FOC from Joyetech UK, at this point I was getting put off the Joyetech eVic AIO with a 0.6 ohm coil, because as much as I like the device when it's working properly, I've come to the conclusion Joyetech coils are crap. Tiny little holes for juice wicking is the main culprit I think....anyway, I digress.

Getting on to the point of the post, I'd got an AWT 3000maH 40a (allegedly) battery to go with the eVic, and it lasted well...and still does.

I've been using a Wismec RX75 for a while now, with this AWT battery in. Currently with a Nautilus X tank with a 1.5 ohm coil for MTL and only running about 18-20w - so as you'd expect, lasts a decent time in between charges.

I've also got a Smok Brit One (for subtlety), and the flavour off that has always been noticeably better than other devices. That's running a 0.6 ohm coil, but is sill ok for MTL.

So, yesterday, having finally got the hump with dry hits and tempramental flavour production, decided the eVic was not my bag (which is a PITA, as I bought a load of coils for it......anyone interested in any!?). Got myself one of the new Smok AL85 mods with the TFV8 baby tank. It's currently got the 0.6ohm coil in it, and it's really good in terms of vapour production and flavour. Also got sold a Vpark 18650 battery that is allegedly 35a - but it seems to drain fairly quickly....so not very impressed with this.

This coil apparently works best at between 30-40w. So I've been using it at 30w, with the airflow almost closed right off and MTL-ing with it.

I've decided I prefer the (seemingly) denser vapour of a subohm coil such as the 0.6 one, and the flavour is definitely better. So I've been experimenting a bit more with DL, rather than MTL, as I can get better flavour still which is what I like.

So...getting to the point (and thanks for bearing with me!), obviously higher wattage is going to do 2 things - smash through juice and drain the battery quicker.

The AL85 is doing both these things very well at the moment, so I need to try optimise the setup!

Reading reviews, Vpark batteries are crap...Annoyingly, as was sold it as being better than the Efest and AWT ones I have already.

Am I right in thinking the LG HG2's would be more suitable? Or are the Sammy 30Q's or Sony VTC6 any better? I'd probably get a pair of whatever I choose, so the other will go in the Wismec.

What I'm after is a battery that will give the longest life (hence looking at the 3000maH ones) - but I'm confused by the amp rating, as I've read that actually there are no batteries with more than 30a rating. So I really don't know what my devices actually NEED in that respect.

Finally, I am assuming there are no higher resistance coils for this tank, I'm struggling to find the 0.6 ohm ones as it is and might have to settle for 0.4 ohm - which I assume are going to drain the battery even more.

Any suggestions for battery life optimisation are very welcome.

Thanks for reading, and apologies for prattling on for a while, but this is the first time I've actually written down my thoughts on what I like and dislike and why, in order to try get some advice from more knowledegable and experienced vapers!
 
Hi and Welcome...

I'm not familier with your tanks unfortunately but I vape mtl and dtl and I use different batteries for different styles.

Firstly be aware that no battery is going to give you days of chain vaping but you will get to know their limitations quite quickly from regular use, but don't expect miracles from your batteries.

It is however an important safety facet of vaping as I'm sure you well know.

This is just my personal preference and what I've gathered from much more expereinced battery people than I'll ever be, and I'm sure someone with more battery experience will give you better battery advice but...

For my mtl set ups (single 18650 battery) I use either the sony vtc6s or the samsung 30qs, these batteries are high in mah but generally don't have the power for higher watt mechs and the likes but suit the mtl style as I'm only vaping at around 20 watts.
The one battery will last me at least all day at my normal vaping intervals.

For my dtl vaping and mechs (normally dual 18650 or more) I use either the sony vtc5a or the samsung 25r and the LG Hg2 These batteries are normally high in power but a little lower in mah.

These are better suited for higher wattage builds (DTL)

I think if you take one bit of advice is to buy batteries from a reputalble vendor @Ben fogstar is one of our own and his service and batteries are second to none.

As to dry hits mtling be aware of the atties capabilities as some dedicated mtl tanks stuggle with high VG juice.

cheers

Gaz
 
sounds like you have most of his figured out already ...

there's only really one thing that will increase battery life to any large amount and that's vaping at lower wattages, the result is twofold as firstly you won't be drawing as much power and secondly you can use higher mAh batteries with a lower amp rating. Those smok coils and tanks are notorious for needing power and people that use them tend to use multi (2, 3 or even 4) cell devices to get a decent life over the day.

What your device need as far as amps go depends on the wattage but samsung 25R's, HE4's and Sony VTC5A's are probably the best all rounders. 30Q's are good but it does depend on how high you are going and there's more complicated stuff like battery sag to take into consideration, also the harder you are using a cell (the closer you run it to it's CDR all the time) the less overall life you will get from it. .... swings and roundabouts but safety should always come before mAh imo.
 
@Russell For the Egrip 2. I have a Rebuildable Base knocking around here somewhere and this made the world of difference when I used an EGrip for a while. Certainly stopped all the dry hits which seemed to plague it when using stock coils. I'll dig it out and have a look, I believe it's in A1 nick, but need to check before offering it to you.:)
 
Thanks for the replies so far guys.

I can't see me going higher than 30-40w to be honest. As I said, at the moment I'm running the 0.6 ohm coil at 30w - and i've got a spare 0.4 ohm coil, which I suspect will say it's best operating at 40-50w, so will run that a 40w. I'm not really a cloud chaser.

So will an 18 or 20a battery be ok?

@Rob - thanks for the offer mate, but I sold the eGrip on a while ago now. I've got a rebuildable one for the eVic, but that's not something I'm sure I can be bothered to get into at the moment (although I did see there's a rebuildable coil for the TFV8 baby as well.....)
 
Thanks for the replies so far guys.

I can't see me going higher than 30-40w to be honest. As I said, at the moment I'm running the 0.6 ohm coil at 30w - and i've got a spare 0.4 ohm coil, which I suspect will say it's best operating at 40-50w, so will run that a 40w. I'm not really a cloud chaser.

So will an 18 or 20a battery be ok?

yeah, any good 20a will be fine.
 
Spoke to Ben, and have ordered a couple of Samsung 30q's.

Cheers fellas.
 
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