@TootlePuffer Thanks a lot for the History Lesson but it wasn't necessary lol, just NZ would of been sufficient , the pen type ones back in the day were pretty rubbish, i started vaping years back and more or less went back to smoking straight away, the juice was expensive and tasted crap compared to the stuff brewed up today, i make my own to save money and enjoy it a lot. Some of the Pen type vapes are ok or what i have seen, it's once you get into mods and tanks that vaping can become expensive. Are vapers in NZ having the same troubles that seem to be affecting the Aussie Vape population like banning Nicotine or is it fair dinkum, sorry been typing ages to put fair dinkum in lol.