It's too big for the hole

[schlinky]

...said the actress to the bishop

So I've taken my first tentative steps into the world of mixology. I wanted to make a low risk juice first, coconut, raspberry and BC, no nic (bedtime juice, remember that post?).

Some things right off the bat, it's going to be tricky to be accurate with these syringes, I can tell that already and the other thing..... these flavour concentrates all have dripping nozzles and the needle I have is too large to fit down the nozzle. Am I going to have to take the nozzle off each flavour every single time I want to make a juice?
I took the nozzles out but then you don't get an airtight seal it seems. Maybe I got something wrong, what are people doing about this?

Step two is mixing up the ethyl maltol. I'm finding some conflicting info on ratios, apparently you don't want an over saturated mix. 1g to 9ml pg is what is scientifically recommended for a stable solution although on here it says 10g/25ml which requires heat to dissolve fully but may result in a liquid that deteriorates over time and can be prone to crystal reformulation.

I don't know, I'm probably stressing too much about these details. I'll give something (I don't know what yet) a whirl and see what happens

 

[South Coast Vaper]

...said the actress to the bishop

So I've taken my first tentative steps into the world of mixology. I wanted to make a low risk juice first, coconut, raspberry and BC, no nic (bedtime juice, remember that post?).

Some things right off the bat, it's going to be tricky to be accurate with these syringes, I can tell that already and the other thing..... these flavour concentrates all have dripping nozzles and the needle I have is too large to fit down the nozzle. Am I going to have to take the nozzle off each flavour every single time I want to make a juice?
I took the nozzles out but then you don't get an airtight seal it seems. Maybe I got something wrong, what are people doing about this?

Step two is mixing up the ethyl maltol. I'm finding some conflicting info on ratios, apparently you don't want an over saturated mix. 1g to 9ml pg is what is scientifically recommended for a stable solution although on here it says 10g/25ml which requires heat to dissolve fully but may result in a liquid that deteriorates over time and can be prone to crystal reformulation.

I don't know, I'm probably stressing too much about these details. I'll give something (I don't know what yet) a whirl and see what happens

First steps are always filled with doubt. It takes a while to build confidence. There is nothing wrong with the juice you are attempting but it may be worth having a pre mixed concentrate such as one from T juice or Pink spot for example. These are very easy to get right and you will have something good to vape whilst you get your own blends right.
Not sure what syringes you have but 1ml are required for the concentrates, you will still have to take the nozzle off but as long as they are flush when replaced should be fine.
I have always used pre mixed Ethol so maybe another ape can help but when you have it sussed as a rough rule of thumb with the Ethol I have always gone with 2-3 drops per 10ml. This may need to be adjusted according to the mix and/or taste. To much can mute the flavour so maybe just make up 5ml of samples with different ratios to see what works or not and get a feel for the flavours and concentrates you have chosen.
And last but not least enjoy your time mixing as you will get there and it's worth it.




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[Chegs]

My solution to the dripping nozzles on the bottles was simple, remove them and leave them off but as my bottles are kept in a cardboard box all squashed together there is zero chance they could fall over and leak.

 

[schlinky]

First steps are always filled with doubt. It takes a while to build confidence. There is nothing wrong with the juice you are attempting but it may be worth having a pre mixed concentrate such as one from T juice or Pink spot for example. These are very easy to get right and you will have something good to vape whilst you get your own blends right.
Not sure what syringes you have but 1ml are required for the concentrates, you will still have to take the nozzle off but as long as they are flush when replaced should be fine.
I have always used pre mixed Ethol so maybe another ape can help but when you have it sussed as a rough rule of thumb with the Ethol I have always gone with 2-3 drops per 10ml. This may need to be adjusted according to the mix and/or taste. To much can mute the flavour so maybe just make up 5ml of samples with different ratios to see what works or not and get a feel for the flavours and concentrates you have chosen.
And last but not least enjoy your time mixing as you will get there and it's worth it.




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Thanks, I'm taking the same approach as I did with my hardware, jump straight in

I don't think I'll get premade concentrates, this is more about flavour exploration for me than having something guaranteed to taste nice, I know there's a lot of mistakes ahead of me

For a first crack though (and right out the gate) the above juice is definitely palatable, it's a little floral but only a couple of hours old and it would probably benefit from a few drops of EM but it's definitely pleasant and vapable.
I used
5ml VG
3ml PG
1ml coconut
0.5ml raspberry
0.5ml BC
warmed it in some water and shook a few times and it's alright. It'll probably be like when I was learning to bake bread, I fluked a few good loaves until I figured out what I was doing right

Thanks for the heads up about the EM masking flavour, I hadn't thought of that.

I'll get the EM done and then try a nic juice. Hopefully my bottles turn up soon, I had to pour away some dregs to get something to experiment in!

 

[Chegs]

Thanks, I'm taking the same approach as I did with my hardware, jump straight in

I don't think I'll get premade concentrates, this is more about flavour exploration for me than having something guaranteed to taste nice, I know there's a lot of mistakes ahead of me

For a first crack though (and right out the gate) the above juice is definitely palatable, it's a little floral but only a couple of hours old and it would probably benefit from a few drops of EM but it's definitely pleasant and vapable.
I used
5ml VG
3ml PG
1ml coconut
0.5ml raspberry
0.5ml BC
warmed it in some water and shook a few times and it's alright. It'll probably be like when I was learning to bake bread, I fluked a few good loaves until I figured out what I was doing right

Thanks for the heads up about the EM masking flavour, I hadn't thought of that.

I'll get the EM done and then try a nic juice. Hopefully my bottles turn up soon, I had to pour away some dregs to get something to experiment in!

I find that coconut tends to mask the other flavours so I try to keep the percentage low (3-5%) This is with Capella too,& F'art is often claimed to be stronger.I have posted all my recipes on the forum in an old thread for POTV users to enjoy,though I'll need to find it too to add my latest bunch of mixes.

 

[schlinky]

I find that coconut tends to mask the other flavours so I try to keep the percentage low (3-5%) This is with Capella too,& F'art is often claimed to be stronger.I have posted all my recipes on the forum in an old thread for POTV users to enjoy,though I'll need to find it too to add my latest bunch of mixes.

Interestingly I found the coconut weak and the raspberry too floral, it settled down a lot and the raspberry backed right off, it's a nice lil blend. I think I'll look at some Kandi Hed (I don't know how they've gotten away with that legally btw) concentrates, been hearing good things about them.