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Made some NET concentrate

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I've been thinking about making a tobacco extract for a while and finally tried it.

I used some pipe tobacco (very aromatic) that I have had sitting in its tin for years (Connoisseur's Choice - by Peterson of Dublin).
I soaked it in about 2.5 times its weight of PG for a week and then gave it heating sessions on the hotplate of my filter coffee maker over another three days and filtered it 3 times with a coffee filter.

Once bottled (only made 25ml) I made up some liquid using it at 9% in a 50/50 mix at 12% nic and let it sit for a couple of days.

I must say it's pretty good much milder than if I burned it in a pipe but it still has the essence of the original and is a very pleasant tobacco vape so if you have anything good sitting around it's worth doing this.
 
Interesting... I know my dad was recently given lovely smelling (and tasting...had a cheeky puff) pipe tobacco that he doesn't get on with (very irregular pipe smoker, just enjoys a puff on the odd occasion!). I may wall have to pinch it off him! Is there an actual guide to proper NET steeping about? I always assumed the tobacco they used was more of a pure leaf form?
 
Interesting... I know my dad was recently given lovely smelling (and tasting...had a cheeky puff) pipe tobacco that he doesn't get on with (very irregular pipe smoker, just enjoys a puff on the odd occasion!). I may wall have to pinch it off him! Is there an actual guide to proper NET steeping about? I always assumed the tobacco they used was more of a pure leaf form?

Pipe tobacco is just shredded leaves with some aromatics, whole leaves would give a very straight flavour.

I found the info for what I did by looking around the web, but what it comes down to is:

That you should use twice the weight of PG or VG compared to the tobacco (I used about 3x because it didn't seem enough)
You can either leave it for about 4 weeks at room temp with some agitation each day or have some very hot (simmering) water in a saucepan and put the NET solution container in this not touching the bottom of the pan (like Hollandaise sauce) for 8 hrs and again for 8hrs over two nights/days, I decided to give it a week cold and then a few heat treatments on my coffee percolator hot plate probably in total about 8hrs.

I used PG because it carries flavour well and apparently VG can take all night to filter (even with a coffee filter) the PG only took 10mins each time.

Also note you get very little nicotine doing this it is just to get the flavour of the tobacco, nicotine removal requires some chemistry.

I have now put the liquid in my Nextasis and am impressed, it is better than most tobaccos I have tried and holds up with good ones. Personally I think for DIY pipe tobaccos or perhaps cigars would be best because the flavour when vaping is much more subtle than the smoke so it needs to be quite strong and I'm not a great fan of cigars, I thing the more aromatic and pleasant the smell of the tobacco the better..
 
Did you steep the juices? I wonder if they'd get stronger over time.
 
Did you steep the juices? I wonder if they'd get stronger over time.
My experiments definitely got stronger. I reckon 8 weeks. I also read that heat destroys some of the more volatile components. So I just stick it in a jam jar, cover with PG, leave for 8 weeks, then I strain through a sanitised stainless steel scrubbie. You can filter more, but I just change my cotton more often or use mesh
 
My experiments definitely got stronger. I reckon 8 weeks. I also read that heat destroys some of the more volatile components. So I just stick it in a jam jar, cover with PG, leave for 8 weeks, then I strain through a sanitised stainless steel scrubbie. You can filter more, but I just change my cotton more often or use mesh

Well I only made 20ml of concentrate but will do more. Guess the 30ml I made has been steeping for about a week now and is I think better than it was. So you wouldn't heat it @domejunky next time could just leave it for a couple of months maybe in summer, from what I've read and this experience the big no no is to get too hot as this will degrade the tobacco and change the taste (PG boils at over 150 degC) I think I was heating mine to 60 deg C, the taste I'm getting is good even with the heating.
 
Hi guys, I know this is an old thread, but I was wondering if anyone had tried leaving the jar in the airing cupboard instead?

Also would you blend a cigar or just chop it up?

Thanks.
 
Hi guys, I know this is an old thread, but I was wondering if anyone had tried leaving the jar in the airing cupboard instead?

Also would you blend a cigar or just chop it up?

Thanks.
I doubt it will make much difference (airing cupboard).

The smaller the particles, the more filtering needed. My logic was that most of the extraction will be happening by osmosis. So as long as the PG can get access to all the leaf material, given enough time it will extract enough of the good stuff. I am lazy/pragmatic though. I filter with a stainless steel scrubby, and don't find the concentrates are excessively gunky.

Since the last posts I had a conversation with Ty Edwards of Stixx Mixx. He uses heating and freezing in his process. But he was keen to point out that he only arrived a this technique trying accelerate the process to make it commercial. He seemed to think that the end result would be largely similar...
 
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