SublimeSparo
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most of the time the Beeb is unbiased, if it involves the government, it's policies etc then it gets a bit meh
Man killed as e-cigarette 'explodes', Merseyside fire service says
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Myles Platt, MFRS area manager said: "The investigation into the cause of this fire is continuing but at this stage it is thought that the charging device being used at the time may not have been the one supplied with the e-cigarette.
"We urge people to always use electrical equipment in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions and guidance, always ensure that no electrical items are left charging overnight or left unattended for a long period when being charged, and do not mix parts from different e-cigarettes.
"Only use the original charger or electrical cables supplied and ensure you purchase electrical items from a reputable source."
Myles Platt, MFRS area manager said: "The investigation into the cause of this fire is continuing but at this stage it is thought that the charging device being used at the time may not have been the one supplied with the e-cigarette.
"We urge people to always use electrical equipment in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions and guidance, always ensure that no electrical items are left charging overnight or left unattended for a long period when being charged, and do not mix parts from different e-cigarettes.
"Only use the original charger or electrical cables supplied and ensure you purchase electrical items from a reputable source."
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Talking in general and not directly related to this case where O2 was involved just thought I would add my tuppence worth .
I'm sure a fair few of you may disagree with me
My thoughts are ego type batteries should not be sold without a dedicated charger. All mobiles and laptops when bought from new are bought with their appropriate charger. Why should it be any different for vaping?
With reference to battery safety I was quite naive about batteries etc when I got into vaping. (I plugged it in, charged it up, and off I went) Thank god I found this place, otherwise one of these accidents could have been me. I don't think I am alone .
I am by no means the brain of Britain, but I do have the odd functioning brain cell, and yet I was unaware safe practice for batteries, if it had a USB and it fitted I would have used it. Why are most sold without instructions or at least some kind of warning?
Which brings me to my next point, I'm not sure that we should have a universal connection to USB but rather a specific connection to ecig/charger. You can't fix stupidity/naivety, but you can manufacture risks out as much as possible.
#just saying
I'm sure a fair few of you may disagree with me
My thoughts are ego type batteries should not be sold without a dedicated charger. All mobiles and laptops when bought from new are bought with their appropriate charger. Why should it be any different for vaping?
With reference to battery safety I was quite naive about batteries etc when I got into vaping. (I plugged it in, charged it up, and off I went) Thank god I found this place, otherwise one of these accidents could have been me. I don't think I am alone .
I am by no means the brain of Britain, but I do have the odd functioning brain cell, and yet I was unaware safe practice for batteries, if it had a USB and it fitted I would have used it. Why are most sold without instructions or at least some kind of warning?
Which brings me to my next point, I'm not sure that we should have a universal connection to USB but rather a specific connection to ecig/charger. You can't fix stupidity/naivety, but you can manufacture risks out as much as possible.
#just saying
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Talking in general and not directly related to this case where O2 was involved just thought I would add my tuppence worth .
I'm sure a fair few of you may disagree with me
However my thoughts are ego type batteries should not be sold without a dedicated charger. All mobiles and laptops when bought from new are bought with their appropriate charger. Why should it be any different for vaping?
With reference to battery safety I was quite naive about batteries etc when I got into vaping. (I plugged it in, charged it up, and off I went) Thank god I found this place, otherwise one of these accidents could have been me. I don't think I am alone in that approach. I am by no means the brain of Britain, but I do have the odd functioning brain cell, and yet I was unaware safe practice for batteries, if it had a USB and it fitted I would have used it. Why are most sold without instructions or at least some kind of warning?
Which brings me to my next point, I'm not sure that we should have a universal connection to USB but rather a specific connection to ecig/charger. You can't fix stupidity/naivety, but you can manufacture risks out as much as possible.
#just saying
You know, you've hit the nail right on the head here. I was thinking the same thing the other day - why aren't these things sold with a charger? My first venture into vaping was an evod and ego battery from a really good local B and M vaping store, but I didn't get a charger. I think in the future they should be sold with a wall plug in charger that meets safety standards.
Nice one Gonloopy
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The BBC news website has had an 'alarmist' approach to vaping for a long time and has only recently started to shift it's stance to a slightly less biased, slightly more balanced approach.
The rash of headlines seen across a lot of the media in the past 12 months appear to be a 'softening up' of the general public to be accepting of restrictions/regulations when they arrive. The general sense of 'yes, we finally accept that e-cigs aren't quite as harmful as smoking, but they absolutely MUST be regulated/controlled' line that seems to be seeping out through the media is just part of a strategy to place preferred (MHRA licensed) suppliers in a prominent position and pave the way for excessive control/taxation of non approved products.
To those who believe the BBC if a free and impartial entity.... think again. The government decides the level of funding the BBC receives and also has a say in the charter. The BBC is wide open for coercion/financial blackmail to toe the line from any incumbent government.
The rash of headlines seen across a lot of the media in the past 12 months appear to be a 'softening up' of the general public to be accepting of restrictions/regulations when they arrive. The general sense of 'yes, we finally accept that e-cigs aren't quite as harmful as smoking, but they absolutely MUST be regulated/controlled' line that seems to be seeping out through the media is just part of a strategy to place preferred (MHRA licensed) suppliers in a prominent position and pave the way for excessive control/taxation of non approved products.
To those who believe the BBC if a free and impartial entity.... think again. The government decides the level of funding the BBC receives and also has a say in the charter. The BBC is wide open for coercion/financial blackmail to toe the line from any incumbent government.
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I've already vented my spleen elsewhere.
Personally I think usb charging should be outlawed.
It was fine when everyone sung from the same hymm sheet but quite simply, the hymm sheet got slung a while back and it now seems anything goes.
The problem is most people really aren't savvy enough to even recognise there IS a difference, never mind the risks that difference poses. Couple that with just how cheap and shit the average ego style device is and you've got a recipe for disaster.
I never used and ego, I only showed an interest in vaping when I found I could use my 18650 cells and chargers I knew and trusted, because I sure as shit never trusted those little cells and crappy chargers.
As for the bbc, their funded by the latest encumbant government, is it even remotely possible anyone could ever consider them impartial?
They're into the propaganda driven ecig demonisation up to their ankles, and they're burried in the shit face first....
Personally I think usb charging should be outlawed.
It was fine when everyone sung from the same hymm sheet but quite simply, the hymm sheet got slung a while back and it now seems anything goes.
The problem is most people really aren't savvy enough to even recognise there IS a difference, never mind the risks that difference poses. Couple that with just how cheap and shit the average ego style device is and you've got a recipe for disaster.
I never used and ego, I only showed an interest in vaping when I found I could use my 18650 cells and chargers I knew and trusted, because I sure as shit never trusted those little cells and crappy chargers.
As for the bbc, their funded by the latest encumbant government, is it even remotely possible anyone could ever consider them impartial?
They're into the propaganda driven ecig demonisation up to their ankles, and they're burried in the shit face first....
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Pretty sad story the person who died was probably on oxygen because of a smoking related illness. He probably was on the e cigs as he thought that was a better way of getting his nicotine or his O2 as that probably would not have been supplied to him if he was still smoking.
Sounds like a charger issue and is so sad I hope he did not suffer.
Sounds like a charger issue and is so sad I hope he did not suffer.
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Same goes for any electrical device. If you plugged an iPhone directly into a 240V source and there was a faulty transformer in the charger it'll blow up or get so hot it starts a fire.
Consider how many fires occur every hour over Christmas period because of people overloading 4 ways mains splitters.
Electrical fires aren't exclusive to vaping kit, it takes common sense like any electrical device.
Consider how many fires occur every hour over Christmas period because of people overloading 4 ways mains splitters.
Electrical fires aren't exclusive to vaping kit, it takes common sense like any electrical device.
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