My scathing review of popular flavourings (mainly Capella) for the fussy

[stayinwonderland]

So, been DIYing properly now for about 5-6 weeks. Thus far I have a folder of .txt files for deleted/aborted attempts which contains 20 failures. This is on top of my original half hearted attempt at DIY where I botched half a dozen or more flavours but my choice of flavourings was a little poor back then.

On top of that I've steeped a good few tobaccos for long periods of time and all of those yucked me out too.

I've also tasted a few top flavours such as King's Strawberry Crunch, MDV 666 and Grumpy's Hooch and rubbished those too.

I presently have only 4 vapes that I enjoy: King's Monkey Jizz, Dodgers, Double Chocco (Baileys and choc), 29AR (not great, but ok) and used to vape Snake Oil but have gone off that now.

I hoped to recreate my fav vapes above, thinking it would be fairly simple... Raspberry Dodgers? Why, that's simple... Sugar Cookie + Raspberry and we're done, right? Banana Custard? Simple... Vanilla Custard + Banana, right?

FUCKING WRONG, BITCHES. WRONG.

Using mainly Capella and a few staples (Dulce de Leche + Bavarian Cream, maybe English Toffee) I proceeded to make a wonderful array of burnt plastic flavours. Don't get me wrong, some weren't burnt, some had a nice melted plastic overtone with delicious, creamy burnt urine notes.

So here's my break down of the flavourings I've tried and what flavours spring to mind (bear in mind I have not vaped burnt urine or melted vomit, but it's as close as an analogy as I can find).


New York Cheesecake: AVOID - burnt vomit

ALL Capella chocolates: burnt urine (actual, literal smell was of the Jorvik centre in York, anyone who's ever been will know and should smell my room after a taste test of a Capella chocolate. Swear to god.)

Green Apple: Apple wrapped in plastic

Cake Batter: Burnt plastic grass

Cinnamon Danish: Cinnamon Soap

Dulce de Leche (PA): FUCKING HORRENDOUS - Burnt, plastic death

Bavarian Cream (PA): Burnt chemicals

Sugar Cookie: Not awful, I don't think, but not a bloody sugar cookie by any stretch.

Successes:

Currently doing ok mixing the Banana and Vanilla Custard (contrary to me saying that it's not that simple, it isn't just a straightforward case of cloning a vendor's vape, but you get a basic vague replica)

Also mixing Caps' VC with French Vanilla is ok.

Irish Cream also doing ok, but don't know what to add to it to bring out the 'cream' as I do not trust cream concentrates to not taste like plastic.

Blueberry Cinnamon Crumble I'm on the fence. Could be ok if worked on properly. Can otherwise taste perfumy.

What's in the pipeline:

Currently steeping: F'arts Butterscotch, F'arts Chocolate (please God let there exist a vapable choc), Flavor West Cinnamon Churro (again, please let there be a vapable cinnamon), DV Blackberry Crumble (this one smells of perfume so big doubts here), Cap's Graham Cracker (ditto a biscuit flavour).

I guess there comes a time when one has to admit defeat to the vendors and just buy their stuff. Ain't giving up yet. I'll hope that there are better concentrate vendors out there or better flavourings, or that some day a concentrate vendor will emerge that understands how to make vapable flavours rather than food additives that some people decide to stick in an atomiser.

I await the many responses of 'taste is subjective'. But take a moment to empathise. I've spent all my pennies, waited weeks and weeks, only to be met with damn near 100% failure, which does suck big time.

 

[Gonloopy]

Fraid I can't help you, but that sounds like what happened to me.
not plucked up the courage to try again ( plus needed time for taste buds to heal..

 

[stayinwonderland]

Disheartening init. I would give my left nut to know exactly what Billy from Vapking King puts in his liquids. What brands do the pros use?! Probably a little from each.

 

[ZT]

So, been DIYing properly now for about 5-6 weeks. Thus far I have a folder of .txt files for deleted/aborted attempts which contains 20 failures. This is on top of my original half hearted attempt at DIY where I botched half a dozen or more flavours but my choice of flavourings was a little poor back then.

On top of that I've steeped a good few tobaccos for long periods of time and all of those yucked me out too.

I've also tasted a few top flavours such as King's Strawberry Crunch, MDV 666 and Grumpy's Hooch and rubbished those too.

I presently have only 4 vapes that I enjoy: King's Monkey Jizz, Dodgers, Double Chocco (Baileys and choc), 29AR (not great, but ok) and used to vape Snake Oil but have gone off that now.

I hoped to recreate my fav vapes above, thinking it would be fairly simple... Raspberry Dodgers? Why, that's simple... Sugar Cookie + Raspberry and we're done, right? Banana Custard? Simple... Vanilla Custard + Banana, right?

FUCKING WRONG, BITCHES. WRONG.

Using mainly Capella and a few staples (Dulce de Leche + Bavarian Cream, maybe English Toffee) I proceeded to make a wonderful array of burnt plastic flavours. Don't get me wrong, some weren't burnt, some had a nice melted plastic overtone with delicious, creamy burnt urine notes.

So here's my break down of the flavourings I've tried and what flavours spring to mind (bear in mind I have not vaped burnt urine or melted vomit, but it's as close as an analogy as I can find).


New York Cheesecake: AVOID - burnt vomit

ALL Capella chocolates: burnt urine (actual, literal smell was of the Jorvik centre in York, anyone who's ever been will know and should smell my room after a taste test of a Capella chocolate. Swear to god.)

Green Apple: Apple wrapped in plastic

Cake Batter: Burnt plastic grass

Cinnamon Danish: Cinnamon Soap

Dulce de Leche (PA): FUCKING HORRENDOUS - Burnt, plastic death

Bavarian Cream (PA): Burnt chemicals

Sugar Cookie: Not awful, I don't think, but not a bloody sugar cookie by any stretch.

Successes:

Currently doing ok mixing the Banana and Vanilla Custard (contrary to me saying that it's not that simple, it isn't just a straightforward case of cloning a vendor's vape, but you get a basic vague replica)

Also mixing Caps' VC with French Vanilla is ok.

Irish Cream also doing ok, but don't know what to add to it to bring out the 'cream' as I do not trust cream concentrates to not taste like plastic.

Blueberry Cinnamon Crumble I'm on the fence. Could be ok if worked on properly. Can otherwise taste perfumy.

What's in the pipeline:

Currently steeping: F'arts Butterscotch, F'arts Chocolate (please God let there exist a vapable choc), Flavor West Cinnamon Churro (again, please let there be a vapable cinnamon), DV Blackberry Crumble (this one smells of perfume so big doubts here), Cap's Graham Cracker (ditto a biscuit flavour).

I guess there comes a time when one has to admit defeat to the vendors and just buy their stuff. Ain't giving up yet. I'll hope that there are better concentrate vendors out there or better flavourings, or that some day a concentrate vendor will emerge that understands how to make vapable flavours rather than food additives that some people decide to stick in an atomiser.

I await the many responses of 'taste is subjective'. But take a moment to empathise. I've spent all my pennies, waited weeks and weeks, only to be met with damn near 100% failure, which does suck big time.

I reckon you may be going wrong somewhere fella ... are you actually steeping in burnt plastic by any chance ?

a lot of the flavours you have descibed are used in some very famous and liked liquids ... something is rotten in denmark somewhere

 

[stayinwonderland]

I've tried a million different things. One thing that did strike me was that my ethyl maltol tastes off and I add that to a fair few things, but that doesn't account for all of it.

My PG tasted gross so I stopped using it and use VG only now. I use Dr. Oeteker (spell) from the supermarket - if anyone reckons that's horrid and there are better VG bases then do let me know. That said, for the Cap's chocolate, I can literally smell the urine/Jorvik from the bottle.

 

[Purplefowler]

I totally agree with the chocolate flavours, most are rank. The only one I like is double choc (can't remember if it's farts or tpa cos the label wore off), but even that burns pretty quick. DIY is a labour of love though, trial and error all the way I'm afraid. Cheesecake is a wierd one though. It needs a good long steep but doesn't taste I vomit-if you want vomit cheesecake then hangsen is the one for that! Capella is very moreish!

 

[ZT]

I've tried a million different things. One thing that did strike me was that my ethyl maltol tastes off and I add that to a fair few things, but that doesn't account for all of it.

My PG tasted gross so I stopped using it and use VG only now. I use Dr. Oeteker (spell) from the supermarket - if anyone reckons that's horrid and there are better VG bases then do let me know. That said, for the Cap's chocolate, I can literally smell the urine/Jorvik from the bottle.

I use capella double chocolate in one of my mixes ... and it generally goes down well

dr otekers has a real taste to it ... try some from boots

 

[ZT]

I totally agree with the chocolate flavours, most are rank. The only one I like is double choc (can't remember if it's farts or tpa cos the label wore off), but even that burns pretty quick. DIY is a labour of love though, trial and error all the way I'm afraid. Cheesecake is a wierd one though. It needs a good long steep but doesn't taste I vomit-if you want vomit cheesecake then hangsen is the one for that! Capella is very moreish!

+1 the cap new york cheesecake is awesome

Michelle .. I beleive you tried a chocolate flavour of mine ... what did ya think ? coz thats cap double chic

 

[Purplefowler]

+1 the cap new york cheesecake is awesome

Michelle .. I beleive you tried a chocolate flavour of mine ... what did ya think ? coz thats cap double chic

I haven't had that one all the choc flavours from them I have tried have had a unny taste to me though, I think it's the sweetner that comes through, it's got an artificial twang that I don't like. Having said that, I am the same with eating chocolate, hate the sweetening agent most use.

 

[KulrMeStoopid]

New York Cheesecake: AVOID - burnt vomit

100% disagree with this one, its one of my favourite mixes. I pop 20% into my nic base, let it steep for 7 days, add a couple drops em maybe some sweetener depending on what kind of mood I am in and it is one of the best simple mixes I have ever done.

ALL Capella chocolates: burnt urine (actual, literal smell was of the Jorvik centre in York, anyone who's ever been will know and should smell my room after a taste test of a Capella chocolate. Swear to god.)

I have the chocolare fudge and its gorgeous...

Cake Batter: Burnt plastic grass

Just mixed this with some lemon inawera and a ton of sweetener and I have a lovely lemon cake batter... no burning plastic grassy taste for me.

Sugar Cookie: Not awful, I don't think, but not a bloody sugar cookie by any stretch.

Another one I disagree with, this is another fave of mine... I reckon something isn't right in your mixes, either coils are too tight, you have silicone too close to the coil, something... these 3 though, ive never had a bad experience with and they were great a week on from mixing.