New Covid strain spreading across the UK that's less likely to cause symptoms

["Misfit"]

the Moronic theory is all over reddit conspiracies, so i've been told

 

[zouzounaki]

and to think i told him to do his own research. blimey.

 

[mick brown]

and to think i told him to do his own research. blimey.

Wasn't mine. Just thought it was funny.

 

[andipandi]

my booster will be delayed as my immunity is high so not point having it till Jan time but i will have it 100%

Individually, we don't know that our immunity is high or how high our immunity might be, just because we've had covid My wife has had her first antibody test result and all it said was, "You have antibodies".
We surely must be better protected immunity wise, because we've been double jabbed and have varying levels of fresh covid antibodies, but by how much.

I didn't fully appreciate how much it sucked till i got it myself. But at least I'm alive!
So over it now tbh, its draining.

I've said the same thing myself. With regard to the draining bit it's a new scenario, we have the expectations that we put on ourselves, back to work, do this do that, surely I'm back to normal blah blah. Then we have the expectations of some poxy family members others, who think just because you're out of isolation that you're fine and have got over it. Even if you get it so called mildly (like me, mildly meaning you didn't end up in hospital, you could still breathe unaided and didn't end up dead), what comes after is a lottery.

Any of these cases proved fatal or lead to hospitalisation yet?

Early days, plus over there, it's southern hemisphere, so will be summer time. Things will probably be different over here, not forgetting we won't know for a few weeks the impact of variant O on different age groups and ethnicities, and those already ill etc.

I think there are positive early signs, but if the experts don't know - which they dont yet, then everyone is guessing, some are more educated guesses but guesses just the same.

 

[andipandi]

Surprise surprise

 

[Mitz]

Cat. Bag.

Sorry @StrawberryRipple I tried mate, but that thin slice of positivity I stole from you yesterday wasn't even enough to get me thru the night. You're on your own mate.

I just struggle to see it. Like everyone else on the planet I'd love to see a much less damaging and destructive dominant variant emerge. Thought the Delta variant this thread was originally about might be the path there. All I see now is another variant that potentially has the capability to avoid at least some of the vaccine induced immune response, incredibly infectious - even compared to the previous super infectious variants - and possibly even improved ability to reinfect people. And the jury is well and truly out on disease severity, including for the groups it matters most to over here.

I'm no virologist or doctor, just a numpty wasting bandwidth on a forum, but all I see here is a big black hole just itching to swallow us all whole again.

Just way too many really crappy outcomes from all this that are realistic and plausible to be either optimistic or hopeful.

 

[Mr Ripple]

Cat. Bag.

Sorry @StrawberryRipple I tried mate, but that thin slice of positivity I stole from you yesterday wasn't even enough to get me thru the night. You're on your own mate.

I just struggle to see it. Like everyone else on the planet I'd love to see a much less damaging and destructive dominant variant emerge. Thought the Delta variant this thread was originally about might be the path there. All I see now is another variant that potentially has the capability to avoid at least some of the vaccine induced immune response, incredibly infectious - even compared to the previous super infectious variants - and possibly even improved ability to reinfect people. And the jury is well and truly out on disease severity, including for the groups it matters most to over here.

I'm no virologist or doctor, just a numpty wasting bandwidth on a forum, but all I see here is a big black hole just itching to swallow us all whole again.

Just way too many really crappy outcomes from all this that are realistic and plausible to be either optimistic or hopeful.

I wonder if it's possible for any of the variants to create a worse strain than we've seen already.

 

[Mitz]

I wonder if it's possible for any of the variants to create a worse strain than we've seen already.

If this strain can avoid immunity, and reinfect, and turns out to have similar disease severity - doesn't this one count?

 

[Mr Ripple]

If this strain can avoid immunity, and reinfect, and turns out to have similar disease severity - doesn't this one count?

This is no different than the rest.
The others can reinfect.

And no one is immune from Covid.
Vaccines don't and never have offered immunity.
I remember when they first came out stating the effectiveness percentages and thought they're not good enough.
Admittedly they've proved their benefit but we seem to have accepted them as as good as they get.

 

[Mitz]

This is no different than the rest.
The others can reinfect.

And no one is immune from Covid.
Vaccines don't and never have offered immunity.
I remember when they first came out stating the effectiveness percentages and thought they're not good enough.
Admittedly they've proved their benefit but we seem to have accepted them as as good as they get.

Hmm.

No, granted. Just easy terminology but if you want me to be more precise; nobody is immune from Covid but vaccines reduce the risk of infection and transmission substantially. Something that is extremely important for the elderly and vulnerable and many more besides.

Yes, but reinfection is not at all wide spread as far as I'm aware. What are current reinfection rates, do you know? It could easily change.

I like your optimism mate, although I struggle to share it at the moment.