Steeping Tobacco Leaf?

[ourglenard]

W/D For Knocking it On The Head Then!! No Voddy Left Here Either...Hence the Rum! Right, Leaf/VG 'Mash' Covered & Left 'till Tomorrow; More VG Added to Cover Leaves ('prox another 30ml)

 

[ourglenard]

Woohoo! I Now Have Approx. 70ml. (?) of Luverly Red-Brown Coloured, Virginian Tobacco Concentrate! 'Lost' a Fair Amount as Leaves Sponge it Up & Filtered Thru' a Bit of Old (Clean!) Cotton Tea-Towel (Did a Fair Impression of One of Those Strange Birds on TV Ads That Sniff Their Laundry!....'Mmmm...Summer Meadows!') Will Prob. Filter Again as Altho' I Can't See any Sediment or 'Bits', It's Fairly Cloudy (SOMEWHERE, I've Got 5 & 1 Micron Filter Socks From When I Used to Filter Used Cooking Oil for Diesel...Altho They'd Prob. Reduce My 70ml. to A Teaspoon's Worth!!) Anyway...Jar Put Away For a Steep & Leaves Soaked Again in VG For a 2nd Go!

 

[LilyRed]

You're a lot further south than me, we might have the gulf stream keeping our climate a little less warm,cold extremes but it does fuck all for the plants except give them plenty of water. I did read there's a tobacco plant variety that favours wet soil (gardeners speak calls it "heavy") but also requires it to be rich in nutrients also and clay doesn't sound like it fits the description. Lol.

A greenhouse on this estate would only last the night before its glass was broken and the remaining frame if it's metal would be stolen for scrap. Even the nearby railway has had to erect an enormous fence to keep hold of their cabling.

I'll try to remember to crank up the PC and post the url of the baccy leaf site I found this morning.

Hi All, just poking my nose in as under another hat (I have many ) I'm a gardener. I'm not going to grow to steep myself, but can advise

Tobacco plants aren't difficult at all to grow in the British isles (unless you're in the Scottish Highlands, where you'll need a polytunnel as minimum - various ornamental variants (nicotiana) are sold by the seed companies, for example:
Thompson-Morgan - Search Results for tobacco

They come under "Half Hardy Annuals", so for non gardeners, the seed needs to be started in a warm place from around March onwards, depending on where you live, to be planted out in May: once the plants are ready to go outdoors, gradually acclimatise to the weather, keeping them frost free. Frankly, the warmer the weather the better, as the tobacco alkaloids will develop better in a warm climate. Tobacco can also be grown hydroponically.

I googled the search term "smoking tobacco seed" and came up with loads of suppliers - make sure you buy from ones with phytosanitary certificates to ensure the seeds are virus-free...

The biggest pests they suffer from are tobacco mosaic virus (this is serious as it affects many other crops and ornamentals and will mean you will need to report to DEFRA & can't grow tobacco in that soil again for many years if ever; fortunately it is less common in seed-grown plants if you buy good seed) and aphids (greenfly etc), which are just a blinking nuisance. Some of the species varieties produce quite huge plants - Nicotiana Sylvestris for example, and most have a glorious scent that is more apparent in the evening and that can attract moths which feed on the nectar.

Not that you needed to know all this

 

[Chegs]

LilyRed
Thanks for taking the time to post this, unfortunately my garden is the oiks favourite dumping ground or shortcut (though why they feel the need to clamber over 2 fences to shorten their walk by a foot or 2 )and the green outside is their footie pitch, though this has been made risky as 3 of them thought it a great idea to dig several holes 1 of which was a few feet deep and wide enough for 3 kids to hide in. The police reported it to the highways dept, who passed the issue to the council who eventually filled the holes.
A neighbour is a keen gardener and has had problems with kids smashing ornaments or ripping out plants. As our garden has nothing but grass, they regularly wreck the fence or cut the washing line. When we 1st moved here, we were subjected to abuse, objects thrown at the windows, rude gestures etc etc and my car was used as a bench, resulting in not 1 straight panel left on it. The oiks responsible are now car owners themselves, and parents so no doubt the new generation will behave similarly to their parents at that age and we'll have the hassles every night again.

Therefore, I'll just buy in tobacco leaf or the oiks will destroy the crop overnight.

 

[Panter]

Hi All, just poking my nose in as under another hat (I have many ) I'm a gardener. I'm not going to grow to steep myself, but can advise

Tobacco plants aren't difficult at all to grow in the British isles (unless you're in the Scottish Highlands, where you'll need a polytunnel as minimum - various ornamental variants (nicotiana) are sold by the seed companies, for example:
Thompson-Morgan - Search Results for tobacco

They come under "Half Hardy Annuals", so for non gardeners, the seed needs to be started in a warm place from around March onwards, depending on where you live, to be planted out in May: once the plants are ready to go outdoors, gradually acclimatise to the weather, keeping them frost free. Frankly, the warmer the weather the better, as the tobacco alkaloids will develop better in a warm climate. Tobacco can also be grown hydroponically.

I googled the search term "smoking tobacco seed" and came up with loads of suppliers - make sure you buy from ones with phytosanitary certificates to ensure the seeds are virus-free...

The biggest pests they suffer from are tobacco mosaic virus (this is serious as it affects many other crops and ornamentals and will mean you will need to report to DEFRA & can't grow tobacco in that soil again for many years if ever; fortunately it is less common in seed-grown plants if you buy good seed) and aphids (greenfly etc), which are just a blinking nuisance. Some of the species varieties produce quite huge plants - Nicotiana Sylvestris for example, and most have a glorious scent that is more apparent in the evening and that can attract moths which feed on the nectar.

Not that you needed to know all this

Thanks for that, I had absolutely no idea you could grow tobacco (legally) in the UK. I'm seriously tempted to have a go next Year, just for the scent and the moths if nothing else!

 

[LilyRed]

@LilyRed
Thanks for taking the time to post this, unfortunately my garden is the oiks favourite dumping ground or shortcut (though why they feel the need to clamber over 2 fences to shorten their walk by a foot or 2 )and the green outside is their footie pitch, though this has been made risky as 3 of them thought it a great idea to dig several holes 1 of which was a few feet deep and wide enough for 3 kids to hide in. The police reported it to the highways dept, who passed the issue to the council who eventually filled the holes.
A neighbour is a keen gardener and has had problems with kids smashing ornaments or ripping out plants. As our garden has nothing but grass, they regularly wreck the fence or cut the washing line. When we 1st moved here, we were subjected to abuse, objects thrown at the windows, rude gestures etc etc and my car was used as a bench, resulting in not 1 straight panel left on it. The oiks responsible are now car owners themselves, and parents so no doubt the new generation will behave similarly to their parents at that age and we'll have the hassles every night again.

Therefore, I'll just buy in tobacco leaf or the oiks will destroy the crop overnight.

Blooping hell; I don't advocate violence, but I'd get a catapult and pellets.... not that that would help. It's Bloody awful when you're stuck with awful neighbours, Chegs, my heart goes out to you

Aside, it is possible to grow the plants in pots in a bright sunny room - just becomes a rather big houseplant/triffid!

 

[Chegs]

Blooping hell; I don't advocate violence, but I'd get a catapult and pellets.... not that that would help. It's Bloody awful when you're stuck with awful neighbours, Chegs, my heart goes out to you

Aside, it is possible to grow the plants in pots in a bright sunny room - just becomes a rather big houseplant/triffid!

This is part of the cause of my health issues, but I'm a stubborn twat and won't give them the satisfaction by moving away. I have as much right to live here as they do, I've actually lived on this estate before most of these twats were fucking born !

Most of the hassles are because they're jealous ,though wtf they're jealous of I've no idea. I was recently reported to the DWP but whoever reported me knows fuck all as they claimed my dad had cashed the cheque (he's dead ) and all my money was being laundered through his bank account. It just irked me how petty the pillock reporting me had been.

 

[ourglenard]

Progress Report:- Gleaned Another 50ml. or So From a 2nd Steeping of the Red Virginia Leaf (No Appreciable Difference in Colour Between the 2 Batches So Will Try a 3rd Too!) The 2nd Half of the Virg. Has Been Dumped in a Pot With 100ml. of 50/50 36mg. Nico Base, to be Left for 4 Weeks. Also Have 10g. Approx. of 'Semi Oriental' Steeping. I WILL Have Enough Baccy Juice For Xmas!! Next Batch, I'll Steep in PG Tho'....I Did n't Realise that VG Was That Thick.....Or That Bloody Sweet!! A Quick Taste on the Dripper Was Encouraging Tho'....Very Reminiscent of HoL's 'Virginia Prime'.

 

[ourglenard]

OK; 1st & 2nd Batches of Red Virginia Added Together as No Appreciable Diff. in Colour/Taste. Will Prob. Do the Same With the Semi-Oriental Too..Approx 60ml. of That Filtered into Jar Just Now. 1 Thing I Won't Do Again is Get OCD 'bout Filtering:- I Decided to 'Polish' the R/Virg By Filtering Again Thru' a Paper Coffee Filter......FFS!!! So S---L---O---W!!! & Lost a Fair Amount of My Concentrate in the Filter, Without any Noticable 'Bits' Left Behind!! So....Filter Once Thru' Clean Tea-Towel Next Time.......If Coils Clog Up, Well, It's About 10x Quicker to Re-Coil Than Filter a 2nd Time, or (For Non-RBAs..) Even a N/V Coil is a Lot Cheaper Than a Fuckin' STRAIGHTJACKET!!!! Oh, Trying a Tad of the Semi-Oriental.....Luverly!! The Subtleties of the 'Baccy Come Thru' Pos. Even Better Than the R/Virg. Allowing for the Cloying Sweetness of the VG, & Obviously Being Un-Steeped & Nic-Free at the Mo'. Reckon I'll Have to Do Something Spectacular to Fuck Up the Final Liquids! (Famous Last Words!!)

 

[ourglenard]

Stirred/Squished the 36mg. Red Virg. Steep & Dripped Some on the Tobh........Really Good!..Like 'Virginia Prime' with a Real Man's Nico. Level!! Kidding; It'll Get Knocked Down to 24 mg.! Oh & The Philippine Sumatras Turned Up So Have 'bout 60ml. Concentrate From Those too!