The Flavorah Tobacco Lounge

[Simon G]

it’s either tatanka or native, can’t remember which one i filled with which, but @Simon G it tastes like smash/mini chips! mind that inawera one? the same taste! needs diluted more again... ffs

lol, I've not tasted that since ... maybe diluting it isn't the answer, bump it up until it tastes like the tobacco it's supposed to be, not some wishy washy earthy backnote.

 

[andipandi]

My mind used to drift off into the past a lot too, which is even less helpful. I guess I'm just a bit of a daydreamer and I have to try and keep that under control.

I have a saying, "Look forward, not back". Having said that, if one looks forward too far, that doesn't work either. So, really "Whatever the day brings" is about right, for me. I've never daydreamed and I've never been ambitious, I'm stuck in my rancid reality

 

[zouzounaki]

so it turns out i was puffing native in one tank, and this blend containing arabian and am4a in the other. i think it is the arabian that’s tasting like dried potatoes.

@andi52 do you have am4a? i saw this on inawera.com:

“WARNING.
Contains dihydrocoumarin, β-damascenone, isovaleric aldehyde, pine oil.”

i think dihydrocoumarin is the weird flavour changing ingredient in inw dark tobacco, FA ozone (and potentially pucker). i do think it is also in arabian, and what causes that weird pungent sourness it contains. this would also explain why am4a is such a strange one to blend, and even understand, and why people taste such widely different things in it from tobacco to chocolate, dark fruits and citrus to brandy.

maybe i’ve made a blend of two different things with this madness in it.

 

[andipandi]

@andi52 do you have am4a? i saw this on inawera.com:

Yes I do have am4a, never use it, mines ancient, Pine oil in it, wtf?

You know what I think of the Arabian, it's the devils work, maybe a drop in a 60 ml blend might work, or dilute 1ml in a 10ml bottle and use a drop or two of that. I'm in no rush to find out.

“WARNING.
Contains dihydrocoumarin, β-damascenone, isovaleric aldehyde, pine oil.”

Warning! According to the classification provided by companies to ECHA in REACH registrations this substance is harmful if swallowed and may cause an allergic skin reaction.

About this substance

This substance is registered under the REACH Regulation and is manufactured in and / or imported to the European Economic Area, at ≥ 10 to < 100 tonnes per annum.

This substance is used by consumers, in articles, by professional workers (widespread uses), in formulation or re-packing and at industrial sites.

Consumer Uses
This substance is used in the following products: air care products, biocides (e.g. disinfectants, pest control products), perfumes and fragrances, polishes and waxes, washing & cleaning products and cosmetics and personal care products.
Other release to the environment of this substance is likely to occur from: indoor use as processing aid and outdoor use as processing aid.

Article service life
Other release to the environment of this substance is likely to occur from: indoor use in long-life materials with low release rate (e.g. flooring, furniture, toys, construction materials, curtains, foot-wear, leather products, paper and cardboard products, electronic equipment) and indoor use in long-life materials with high release rate (e.g. release from fabrics, textiles during washing, removal of indoor paints). This substance can be found in products with material based on: fabrics, textiles and apparel (e.g. clothing, mattress, curtains or carpets, textile toys), leather (e.g. gloves, shoes, purses, furniture), metal (e.g. cutlery, pots, toys, jewellery), paper (e.g. tissues, feminine hygiene products, nappies, books, magazines, wallpaper), rubber (e.g. tyres, shoes, toys) and plastic (e.g. food packaging and storage, toys, mobile phones).

Widespread uses by professional workers
This substance is used in the following products: polishes and waxes and washing & cleaning products.
ECHA has no public registered data on the types of manufacture using this substance. Other release to the environment of this substance is likely to occur from: indoor use as processing aid.

Formulation or re-packing
ECHA has no public registered data indicating whether or in which chemical products the substance might be used. Release to the environment of this substance can occur from industrial use: formulation of mixtures.

Uses at industrial sites
This substance is used in the following products: washing & cleaning products.
ECHA has no public registered data on the types of manufacture using this substance. Release to the environment of this substance can occur from industrial use: in processing aids at industrial sites.

Manufacture
ECHA has no public registered data on the routes by which this substance is most likely to be released to the environment.

https://echa.europa.eu/substance-information/-/substanceinfo/100.003.959

 

[zouzounaki]

Yes I do have am4a, never use it, mines ancient, Pine oil in it, wtf?

You know what I think of the Arabian, it's the devils work, maybe a drop in a 60 ml blend might work, or dilute 1ml in a 10ml bottle and use a drop or two of that. I'm in no rush to find out.





Warning! According to the classification provided by companies to ECHA in REACH registrations this substance is harmful if swallowed and may cause an allergic skin reaction.

About this substance

This substance is registered under the REACH Regulation and is manufactured in and / or imported to the European Economic Area, at ≥ 10 to < 100 tonnes per annum.

This substance is used by consumers, in articles, by professional workers (widespread uses), in formulation or re-packing and at industrial sites.

Consumer Uses
This substance is used in the following products: air care products, biocides (e.g. disinfectants, pest control products), perfumes and fragrances, polishes and waxes, washing & cleaning products and cosmetics and personal care products.
Other release to the environment of this substance is likely to occur from: indoor use as processing aid and outdoor use as processing aid.

Article service life
Other release to the environment of this substance is likely to occur from: indoor use in long-life materials with low release rate (e.g. flooring, furniture, toys, construction materials, curtains, foot-wear, leather products, paper and cardboard products, electronic equipment) and indoor use in long-life materials with high release rate (e.g. release from fabrics, textiles during washing, removal of indoor paints). This substance can be found in products with material based on: fabrics, textiles and apparel (e.g. clothing, mattress, curtains or carpets, textile toys), leather (e.g. gloves, shoes, purses, furniture), metal (e.g. cutlery, pots, toys, jewellery), paper (e.g. tissues, feminine hygiene products, nappies, books, magazines, wallpaper), rubber (e.g. tyres, shoes, toys) and plastic (e.g. food packaging and storage, toys, mobile phones).

Widespread uses by professional workers
This substance is used in the following products: polishes and waxes and washing & cleaning products.
ECHA has no public registered data on the types of manufacture using this substance. Other release to the environment of this substance is likely to occur from: indoor use as processing aid.

Formulation or re-packing
ECHA has no public registered data indicating whether or in which chemical products the substance might be used. Release to the environment of this substance can occur from industrial use: formulation of mixtures.

Uses at industrial sites
This substance is used in the following products: washing & cleaning products.
ECHA has no public registered data on the types of manufacture using this substance. Release to the environment of this substance can occur from industrial use: in processing aids at industrial sites.

Manufacture
ECHA has no public registered data on the routes by which this substance is most likely to be released to the environment.

https://echa.europa.eu/substance-information/-/substanceinfo/100.003.959

you should knock up a 1% tester, it’s fantastic stuff.

i don’t think the dihydrocoumarin is particularly dangerous in the amounts that will be in there, i read up a bit on it, and it is what the body metabolises coumarin (which is more toxic, but occurs naturally in many foods) into.

i think a lot of concentrates have flavours extracted from oils. they don’t just dump a load of oil into it. is that not why triacetin is in some concentrates, as a solvent for oil extracted flavours?

 

[andipandi]

i think a lot of concentrates have flavours extracted from oils. they don’t just dump a load of oil into it. is that not why triacetin is in some concentrates, as a solvent for oil extracted flavours?

Emulsifier?

I have some triethyl citrate, bought 3 years ago from drip hacks, don't think they sell it anymore. It's great as an emulsifier, a tad controversial though, I used it in my devils lettuce homemade vape extractions, just a drop here and there.

you should knock up a 1% tester, it’s fantastic stuff.

I'll dig it out, spotted it by chance, the other day, I'd forgotten all about it, steep time?

 

[zouzounaki]

Emulsifier?

I have some triethyl citrate, bought 3 years ago from drip hacks, don't think they sell it anymore. It's great as an emulsifier, a tad controversial though, I used it in my devils lettuce homemade vape extractions, just a drop here and there.

I'll dig it out, spotted it by chance, the other day, I'd forgotten all about it, steep time?

aye, that’s what i meant.

 

[zouzounaki]

sweet and smoky tobacco. this one is quite interesting. it’s like a mild brown sugar sweetness with the kind of tobacco background that’s in FA ry4 without the vanilla and bumped up a bit. a smoky sensation. it’s making me think of tea. might be good with a drop of bergamot.

 

[andipandi]

sweet and smoky tobacco. this one is quite interesting. it’s like a mild brown sugar sweetness with the kind of tobacco background that’s in FA ry4 without the vanilla and bumped up a bit. a smoky sensation. it’s making me think of tea. might be good with a drop of bergamot.

It's marzipan.

This just gets better and better, knock some up, come back to it, in a month, yes

0.30% Classic Cigarette (Flavorah)
0.30% Commercial Cigarette (Flavorah)
0.15% Virginia Tobacco (Flavorah)

 

[zouzounaki]

It's marzipan.

interesting, i don’t get marzipan at all. i’ll leave it to sit for a while and see.

This just gets better and better, knock some up, come back to it, in a month, yes

0.30% Classic Cigarette (Flavorah)
0.30% Commercial Cigarette (Flavorah)
0.15% Virginia Tobacco (Flavorah)

i’m not going near it.