TPA sweetener alternative?

[ZT]

anyone know of one ? I know EM .. but not what i need for this juice.

Ive looked on TPA's webbie .. and the sweetener is basically a mix of PG water and sucralose

Sucralose is the main ingredient in Splenda ... however .. that has other things in it as well ... so I wouldn't use that.

I have found a place that does pure sucralose powder at good rates .. anyone knowledgable know of any reason not to use this ?

linky here : http://www.tradeingredients.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=78

Cheers!

 

[LilyRed]

ZT as pure sucralose it's exactly the same stuff that goes into the ready-made 'Sweetener' liquid with PG (@ 20%). Same as making up malic acid or citric acid (or both together) for 'sour'. The only other alternative sweetening component would be pure stevia powder, but not having tried this yet I can't advise on how it affects flavours.

I couldn't think of any reasons not to use it, nor currently find a better price for quantity - go for it

 

[RicModMaker]

ZT as pure sucralose it's exactly the same stuff that goes into the ready-made 'Sweetener' liquid with PG (@ 20%). Same as making up malic acid or citric acid (or both together) for 'sour'. The only other alternative sweetening component would be pure stevia powder, but not having tried this yet I can't advise on how it affects flavours.

I couldn't think of any reasons not to use it, nor currently find a better price for quantity - go for it

That's good to see. They also sell citric and malic acid. I use sour and sweetener in all my mixes and was wondering if it could be bought more economically. Anyone see a reason why I can't make sour too?

 

[ZT]

@ZT as pure sucralose it's exactly the same stuff that goes into the ready-made 'Sweetener' liquid with PG (@ 20%). Same as making up malic acid or citric acid (or both together) for 'sour'. The only other alternative sweetening component would be pure stevia powder, but not having tried this yet I can't advise on how it affects flavours.

I couldn't think of any reasons not to use it, nor currently find a better price for quantity - go for it

20% good to know thanks!

 

[LilyRed]

That's good to see. They also sell citric and malic acid. I use sour and sweetener in all my mixes and was wondering if it could be bought more economically. Anyone see a reason why I can't make sour too?

Seedy, in a word, nope!

I already had citric acid at home as normally I use it as a descaler/limescale-remover - see those expensive wee bags of descaling solution for your kettle? Just mix 10g citric acid with 100ml water, pour into kettle, bring to boil, then leave 1/2 hour. Tip out, re-fill with clean water and boil x3 - voila, clean kettle .

Citric acid is not as sour as malic acid. Most of the sours tend to use only malic acid, but Lorann 'Tart 'n' Sour' uses both plus another ingredient (not sure but might be citrulline (sp) malate - it's easy enough to find out as I've seen it sold in the UK)

I think it's mixed at 20% again. This ratio seems to be the standard offered across the board by the flavouring companies so I guess you could experiment with your own

 

[LilyRed]

Seedy forgot to add for sours I've read on other forums that you can also try cider vinegar (I s'pose you could try balsamic, but would give your juice a purple/red tinge?) and besides that, lemon juice ....

 

[Phantom Diablo]

i use liquid stevia. works a treat and does the job .

http://www.leisureliquids.com/stevia-pure?search=stevia

 

[RicModMaker]

Seedy forgot to add for sours I've read on other forums that you can also try cider vinegar (I s'pose you could try balsamic, but would give your juice a purple/red tinge?) and besides that, lemon juice ....

Thanks hun. I tried lemon once and found it made the juice harsher on the th. Never thought of vinegar. Interesting.

i use liquid stevia. works a treat and does the job .

http://www.leisureliquids.com/stevia-pure?search=stevia

The price puts me off to be honest now I know what it costs to make. I use a fair bit so I think I'll be making my own from now on.

 

[Colonelboom]

@Seedy forgot to add for sours I've read on other forums that you can also try cider vinegar (I s'pose you could try balsamic, but would give your juice a purple/red tinge?) and besides that, lemon juice ....

Don't use balsamic, it is blended using sugars and won't work for mixing Cider and apple cider vinegar work well though

You are spot on about sucralose and the acids though, get in powdered form in bulk rather than buying bottles of 20% dilute and it gives you a much better bang for your buck.

 

[LilyRed]

Thanks PlumeBlu - must admit I'd umm and ahh before trying balsamic (although I might be stupid enough to use myself as a research subject ... )

Would it be correct to have concerns over lemon juice because of the natural sugars in the fruit either clagging up the coil or just making the juice a brown colour within atomisers as the natural sugars caramelise from interacting with a heat source?