Understanding how my evic vtc works in TC mode with Ti

[cyberlollo]

Hi guys, I recently started to vape in TC mode with my new evic mini using Titanium (same thing in Ni or SS)..
I do spaced coil as perfect as I can 3mm 6 wraps with 0,4mm wire Ti grade 1.
The resistance at room temperature is 0,34ohm I set 20watt at 230°C after 0,5/1 sec it reach protection, cutting the power to 10-12 watts.
If I unscrew and screw back the resistance without waiting, of course it's higher and the evic ask me if it's a new coil, I say yes, and with an higher value of the resistance, I can vape reaching as usual (most of the time) the protection, but it cuts the power a way less allowing me to vape decently around 20watt as I would like to.



I show in the video the first part is when the temperature and coil is locked from cold at room temperature, then (i forgot for a moment in the video to lock the resistance) but you can see how change the temperature in the second part, allowing me to vape around 20w..
Is my evic ok? if yes, probably I don't like to vape in tc..
Thanks everybody for your time.

 

[Mr Numpty]

Crank your watts up to 50-70 and don't concern yourself with when it says temp protection or what power it is using at that point but rather how the vape is. By locking in a false base resistance of a hot coil, you are not doing yourself any favours imo.
I see you are using the M1 setting also. Why that instead of Ti mode and what TCR have you input for it?

 

[schlinky]

i agree, first things first, put the mod in Ti mode.

If you still have problems let us know.

 

[cyberlollo]

of course I tried in Ti same vape experience, tcr set to 366
I almost forgot, sorry for my English I'm trying to write as best as I can
Made a try with 50w 0,37ohm 230C and after 1 sec or less I cuts the watts to 18-20.
is it supposed to work like this?

 

[Tubbyengineer]

It would appear that you just aren't setting it up correctly, you should start by setting it to Temp-Ti mode, then set your temperature, then set your power around 50w. The thing is you seem not to understand that you are vaping to a temperature not a wattage. Make sure you have the thing set for Titanium first, then set the cold coil resistance, then pick a starting temp, then pick a starting wattage. If the Mod say's it reaching Temp Protect and throttling right back then it's doing it's job. If the vape is still to cool you need to increase the Temperature setting, If It's too cool and it never shows Temp Protect then and only then do you need to increase the wattage.

Doing what you've been doing just throws the temp settings out and you end up vaping at an unknown temperaature - you might as well be vaping in power mode...

 

[Tubbyengineer]

of course I tried in Ti same vape experience, tcr set to 366
I almost forgot, sorry for my English I'm trying to write as best as I can
Made a try with 50w 0,37ohm 230C and after 1 sec or less I cuts the watts to 18-20.
is it supposed to work like this?

Right is it a rebuildable your using? if so - try less wick in the coil, a cold weak vape with early temp protect sounds like wicking issues, try getting the mod reset to the normal Ti setting, and cold coil resistance, as well as your desired temperature. then before you pull your build out to rewick - try closing off the airflow and deliberately taking a few primer puffs to get the wick and coils well soaked with liquid, then take a vape, if you get two or three good vapes before it fades out then it's definetely your wicking. The same thing can apply to prebuilt coils too - but with those you need to poke the wick with a pin to loosen it up...

 

[schlinky]

TC vaping is more complicated than regular VW vaping, there are more things to get right.

If making your own coils it should be a spaced coil (to avoid hotspots), the wick should be looser (use less cotton), connections and screws should be tight. Tricking the mod to vape hotter by getting the coil hot is not the right way to do it.

That said you could have a faulty unit, I have a faulty evic but I have convinced it to work. Try the following, exactly in order:
1) Unlock the mod (if resistance is locked) and take the tank off.
2) Let it cool down completely or use a different tank
3) Switch to voltage mode, then attach the tank
4) Whilst still in this 'mode switch' setting, change to Ti mode
5) Lock the resistance now whilst still in adjustment mode
6) Press the fire button

You should have the resistance locked in at the right setting and get a bit of consistency.

When working properly you should press the fire button, the mod will heat the coil to your chosen temp setting then 'temp protection' should show on the screen, this tells you the unit is working correctly.

 

[cyberlollo]

It would appear that you just aren't setting it up correctly, you should start by setting it to Temp-Ti mode, then set your temperature, then set your power around 50w. The thing is you seem not to understand that you are vaping to a temperature not a wattage. Make sure you have the thing set for Titanium first, then set the cold coil resistance, then pick a starting temp, then pick a starting wattage. If the Mod say's it reaching Temp Protect and throttling right back then it's doing it's job. If the vape is still to cool you need to increase the Temperature setting, If It's too cool and it never shows Temp Protect then and only then do you need to increase the wattage.

Doing what you've been doing just throws the temp settings out and you end up vaping at an unknown temperaature - you might as well be vaping in power mode...

ok, thank you for your help, I know that increase the read of the resistance is not the right way, but it seems the only one that gave me a good experience..
anyway, tomorrow I'll try to make a new coil, and set it to 50w..
usually I start with 200C, for make the coil doing is job step by step..
Idk if this is correct or not..maybe it's just a stupid idea that I have.

But more importan, what is the max temperature (safe) to use for a Ti coil? I heard people saying to stay under 250C.

Right is it a rebuildable your using? if so - try less wick in the coil, a cold weak vape with early temp protect sounds like wicking issues, try getting the mod reset to the normal Ti setting, and cold coil resistance, as well as your desired temperature. then before you pull your build out to rewick - try closing off the airflow and deliberately taking a few primer puffs to get the wick and coils well soaked with liquid, then take a vape, if you get two or three good vapes before it fades out then it's definetely your wicking. The same thing can apply to prebuilt coils too - but with those you need to poke the wick with a pin to loosen it up...

Yes is a rebuildable, I not use any premade coil also there are none of them for my ubertoot v2
Actually I'm using an organic cotton, I have thousands of pads, muji and others brand, and when I rebuild the coil I used to put as less as I can just to avoid gurgling..

TC vaping is more complicated than regular VW vaping, there are more things to get right.

If making your own coils it should be a spaced coil (to avoid hotspots), the wick should be looser (use less cotton), connections and screws should be tight. Tricking the mod to vape hotter by getting the coil hot is not the right way to do it.

That said you could have a faulty unit, I have a faulty evic but I have convinced it to work. Try the following, exactly in order:
1) Unlock the mod (if resistance is locked) and take the tank off.
2) Let it cool down completely or use a different tank
3) Switch to voltage mode, then attach the tank
4) Whilst still in this 'mode switch' setting, change to Ti mode
5) Lock the resistance now whilst still in adjustment mode
6) Press the fire button

You should have the resistance locked in at the right setting and get a bit of consistency.

When working properly you should press the fire button, the mod will heat the coil to your chosen temp setting then 'temp protection' should show on the screen, this tells you the unit is working correctly.

I'll give a shot to this method if tomorrow even doing what Tubbyengineer said will not work

Thanks to everybody in advance, so far the best help I got since I landed on vaping forums

 

[dansus]

Its temp limiting too quickly, which means the TCR setting for the wire is wrong and the mod thinks its hotter than it actually is.

Try adjusting the settings.

 

[cyberlollo]

Its temp limiting too quickly, which means the TCR setting for the wire is wrong and the mod thinks its hotter than it actually is.

Try adjusting the settings.

From steam engine.com titan grade 1 has a tcr in vaping mode of 366, and that is what I used in my evic, also in Ti mode does the same than in TCR..