Vape harsh on first use

[Jim-mapps]

It's soooooo frustrating. I've gone Frome vape to smoke and back again about 4 times now because I just never seem to get what I expected from it. I'll try this though, seems annoyingly fiddly for the tank I'm using as I have to take the coil out to add anything into the juice... Maybe once I find the right ratio it will be ok though.

 

[mattyk2010]

It's soooooo frustrating. I've gone Frome vape to smoke and back again about 4 times now because I just never seem to get what I expected from it. I'll try this though, seems annoyingly fiddly for the tank I'm using as I have to take the coil out to add anything into the juice... Maybe once I find the right ratio it will be ok though.

Just buy some new juice and ask for a nic salt shot and your problem goes away because the salts are smooth as vaping no nic at 3mg

 

[Cozy]

I'm assuming after 10mins then you are getting a pleasant vape, you describe harsh, are you getting a burnt taste? Are you priming the coil when using for the first time, dropping liquid into the wicking holes then let it sit in the juice,

Also when new coil in start it off at low wattage, take a few pulls then increase slightly each time till you get to desired wattage, this will help with the life of the coil

If you are getting a burnt taste you have probably burnt the cotton and best thing to do is empty the juice give it a good clean in hot water then insert new coil and take steps as above,

28w is the highest of the recommended range as they are rated between 20-28w

Additionally like @matty2k said above, if you're not after the throat hit, and are after a nicotine fix give some 10 or 20mg nic salts a go, 10ml bottle and see how you get on with them

They are normally 50/50 liquid

 

[crustyfolker]

@crustyfolker thanks for the advice regarding the coils. Seems like a lot of hassle for me as I use it so little. I'll spend more time rebuilding coils than vaping them.

Second vote for 0% nic juice though, I'll probably give this a go .

i will let you into a secret, your coils would last months as long as you dry burn them, dry burn is when you clean the tank and remove the wick (cotton) fire the mod so the coils glow, just let it burn off all the gunk, you could wash in water or just give the coils a good blow to blow any ash away, rewixk which will take seconds, put your rta back together and fill n vape. Its faster to rewick faster than it takes the funky taste to subside.
as said about Nicotine and PG they are both harsh. So get a zero nic and as low PG as possible. Can i ask what you are using at the moment ie tank and mod?.

 

[Jim-mapps]

@crustyfolker it's one of these, bought from this site https://www.vapemate.co.uk/innokin-cool-fire-mini-slipstream-kit.html

@Cozy yes, after 10 minutes it's ok. I will say though that with the current device (above) I'm not getting loads of flavour. Just isn't as harsh. When I first filled it I put 2 drops of juice in each wicking home, refitted into a full tank and left it for at least an hour and a half before using it. Started off at 20W. Tasted awful. A bit burnt. The burnt taste faded after 5 minutes or so but I was surprised. I thought I'd done everything right.

@mattyk2010 thanks. I had heard something about salt nic being smoother. To be honest I'd totally forgotten.

 

[Jim-mapps]

Previous device was a SMOK V8 baby. Did exactly the same but even worse. Felt like it was doing more harm than smoking to be honest. It did produce bags of flavour after those first few minutes though, the innokin one doesn't quite match it for flavour which is a shame.

 

[crustyfolker]

Previous device was a SMOK V8 baby. Did exactly the same but even worse. Felt like it was doing more harm than smoking to be honest. It did produce bags of flavour after those first few minutes though, the innokin one doesn't quite match it for flavour which is a shame.

are you priming your coils, ie fill the tank and let it stand for 10 mins or add drops of liquid to a new coil, fit the coil and refill your tank still let it stand for 5 mins. Another thing you could try for the first few pulls is do not vape it instead blow, any vapour will escape from the air intake hole. but the flavour will appear soon so don't worry about blowing the first five times or so to get the flavour flowing.

 

[Cozy]

@crustyfolker it's one of these, bought from this site https://www.vapemate.co.uk/innokin-cool-fire-mini-slipstream-kit.html

@Cozy yes, after 10 minutes it's ok. I will say though that with the current device (above) I'm not getting loads of flavour. Just isn't as harsh. When I first filled it I put 2 drops of juice in each wicking home, refitted into a full tank and left it for at least an hour and a half before using it. Started off at 20W. Tasted awful. A bit burnt. The burnt taste faded after 5 minutes or so but I was surprised. I thought I'd done everything right.

@mattyk2010 thanks. I had heard something about salt nic being smoother. To be honest I'd totally forgotten.

Yeah like I said start at lowest setting you can few pulls then increase 3 or 4 w each time, you wont get much vapour or flavour but it will help with the life of the coil, the 20w straight off may have burnt it, try the above with a new coil and clean the tank before this and see how you get on

Also if you dont want / need the throat hit have a go with salts, I only use salts, a 10ml 18 or 20mg nic salt shot to a 50ml shortfill will give you 60ml of approx. 3mg strength liquid, I use this in my sub ohm devices and 20mg salts in my pod / allinone devices

 

[Jim-mapps]

are you priming your coils, ie fill the tank and let it stand for 10 mins or add drops of liquid to a new coil, fit the coil and refill your tank still let it stand for 5 mins. Another thing you could try for the first few pulls is do not vape it instead blow, any vapour will escape from the air intake hole. but the flavour will appear soon so don't worry about blowing the first five times or so to get the flavour flowing.

Worth a try. I avoided blowing through them as with the SMOK one I just got juice all over my hands if I blew through it. I am priming as I said above. 2 drops of juice on each of the wicking holes in the coils and let it stand in a full tank for around 90 minutes before using.

Another thing I've just noticed. The juice I've been using seems thinner than it was. I've been using it since before lockdown and I'm down to the end of the bottle now. Does the PG seperate at all? Wonder if I've just got all the harsh stuff left in this bottle??

 

[Cozy]

Worth a try. I avoided blowing through them as with the SMOK one I just got juice all over my hands if I blew through it. I am priming as I said above. 2 drops of juice on each of the wicking holes in the coils and let it stand in a full tank for around 90 minutes before using.

Another thing I've just noticed. The juice I've been using seems thinner than it was. I've been using it since before lockdown and I'm down to the end of the bottle now. Does the PG seperate at all? Wonder if I've just got all the harsh stuff left in this bottle??

Probably cause the weather is warmer, in winter / cold temps it becomes thicker, you did shake it after adding the nicotine?