What would we do if legislation stops the vaping trade

[2minvapereviews]

So, I've been reading a lot lately about the legislation both in the US and the EU.

The general consensus is that obviously it's going to be very bad news to the industry. But what does this look like for us vapers?

I'm trying to get a grasp on the actual ramifications:

• You will not be able to buy the devices you use now! 2ml tank capacity limit means a huge swathe of the most popular products will be unavailable. (The wording of TPD Article 20 is ambiguous in respect of this limit, but the first Member State to implement has decided on an outright ban on tanks over 2ml capacity.).
• You will have less choice of e-liquids! Harsh regulations around fluid and emissions testing mean that small and artisanal e-liquid manufacturers will be unable to compete, or in many cases even stay in business. Larger manufacturers will be forced to restrict the choices in their fluid ranges.
• You will have less choice of nicotine strength! The 20 mg/ml nicotine strength limit means that those most at risk from combustible cigarettes (heavy smokers) are least likely to be able to satisfy nicotine craving with e-cigarettes.
• All e-cigarettes will start to look the same! Ensuring “leak free refilling” (to be supported by a proposed Pan-European standard filling mechanism) also outlaws the vast majority of refillable and all rebuildable products, to be replaced by e-cigarettes with the same generic and standardised filling mechanism.

So, if this comes into force, will there be a mad rush to snap up all existing products on the market and essentially have enough spare mods/tanks and juice for a good period of time.

What's your plan if the aforementioned comes into force? Is it just game over or will the industry react accordingly - developing new products for things like the new "leak free refilling" mechanism?

I've always been lost about the real future of vaping as everything I read people just say "it's the end" but is it..?

 

[bananas]

It isn't the end people will be more than willing to circumvent the regulations, we'll just need to pay for things with bitcoin, yuan or from some shady guy down the pub.

 

[tachikoma]

So the bit that confuses me is, assume all this shit steamrolls through, if I walk down the street with my Snow Wolf 200W, dripper and a 100ml bottle of DIY liquid, will I get pepper sprayed and locked up for the night? will they confiscate it? will I be allowed to use it for as long as it lasts but not legally allowed to replace it if it breaks?

 

[2minvapereviews]

So the bit that confuses me is, assume all this shit steamrolls through, if I walk down the street with my Snow Wolf 200W, dripper and a 100ml bottle of DIY liquid, will I get pepper sprayed and locked up for the night? will they confiscate it? will I be allowed to use it for as long as it lasts but not legally allowed to replace it if it breaks?

I believe the second option.

 

[billy_idle]

make tanks with 2ml capacity, sell glass/metal tubes that fit the tanks seperately as 'glass/metal tubes', which increase the capacity.

 

[billy_idle]

I'm mainly concerned about the nicotine, so buying it as much as I can until it is unavailable at that strength.

 

[Ment]

In reality, it will make little difference to established vapers.

72mg nicotine will be hard to get hold of, but perhaps this is justified, it is after all a lethal poison. If 20mg is the highest available it will mean those on 18mg will have no choice but to buy premixed, but for DIYers on 3 or 6 it will only mean a small price increase.

Equipment wise, how are they going to ban the dozens of new torches with 510 fittings or 5ml Febreeze dispensers?

What it will do is place a lot of stumbling blocks in the way of new vapers who will be ushered towards the mass produced lines that fall within the regulations.

Then there's the EU vote. When we leave the EU, the government, which has been relatively positive about vaping, will hopefully tear up all EU regulations and we can return to normal.

 

[ned]

In reality, it will make little difference to established vapers.

72mg nicotine will be hard to get hold of, but perhaps this is justified, it is after all a lethal poison. If 20mg is the highest available it will mean those on 18mg will have no choice but to buy premixed, but for DIYers on 3 or 6 it will only mean a small price increase.

Equipment wise, how are they going to ban the dozens of new torches with 510 fittings or 5ml Febreeze dispensers?

What it will do is place a lot of stumbling blocks in the way of new vapers who will be ushered towards the mass produced lines that fall within the regulations.

Then there's the EU vote. When we leave the EU, the government, which has been relatively positive about vaping, will hopefully tear up all EU regulations and we can return to normal.

anti freeze is also a very lethal poison

 

[Ment]

anti freeze is also a very lethal poison

Yes, I totally agree, but the issue is justification for control. You can't ban anti freeze because cars wouldn't move.

Nicotine has absolutely no uses outside of smoking cessation so it's easy to justify it's control.

 

[Mawsley]

I'm going to vape Sure For Men or pizza.