Absolute F*&%$ng Disgrace

[Rukaguy]

I don't think the Soda bottle is sold by Fantasi, and nor do I think they package their bottles in fake Soda cans (with the real Fanta branding on them! It doesn't even say Fantasi!) as far as I can tell.

All we have is a dripper bottle, with a logo that USED to be a rip off of the Fanta logo...

But has more recently been changed, either voluntarily or due to the threat of legal action for copyright infingement and now looks like this:

It's a dripper bottle with a logo on it. It doesn't look like the Fanta logo any more.

Where?
Seriously, provide a link.
Are you saying this juice manufacturer sells it's ejuice in Fanta cans?
That'd be potentially great value for vapers but no, they dont.
Dripper bottles with pipettes is what I see everywhere and as for unscrupulous law breaking shop owners, are they really going to say to a small child, 'what's that little one? You want to give me £20 for that tiny tiny bottle with a fruit picture on because it looks yummy to drink despite there being a pop can fridge behind your back selling huge cans (comparatively speaking) of Fanta for 80p?* Of course and I won't even mention the fact it's not a drink because I can't imagine any backlash or potential problems from this at all, sure, why not'

*(I don't drink pop so no clue what they sell for but i'm guessing considerably less than a premium ejuice)

Em.. there definitely is a Fantasi DIY kit with these drink-styled bottles. Just sayin.

In a variety of flavours: http://vaporcenter.be/nld/search/q:fantasi

https://www.aroma-company.be/en/fantasi-orange-ice-30-in-60.html
https://shop.alpha-steam.com/neues/2159/fantasi-orange

 

[deleteuser47111]

Em.. there definitely is a Fantasi DIY kit with these drink-styled bottles. Just sayin.

In a variety of flavours: http://vaporcenter.be/nld/search/q:fantasi

https://www.aroma-company.be/en/fantasi-orange-ice-30-in-60.html
https://shop.alpha-steam.com/neues/2159/fantasi-orange

The truth outs. Being a DIY kit it is hardly marketed at kids, especially at that price. Also it is in Belgium, can't really get upset about stuff in another country, especially one that will be nothing to do with us in 12 months time.

 

[city461]

I don't think the Soda bottle is sold by Fantasi, and nor do I think they package their bottles in fake Soda cans

Being a DIY kit it is hardly marketed at kids,

The OP mentions that the packaging might be confused with a pop bottle, doesnt matter which country it is in, how you educate your kids, at what price it is, Brexit, or anything else... IT CAN BE CONFUSED...and this will only bring bad press....

 

[speedfreek67]

Em.. there definitely is a Fantasi DIY kit with these drink-styled bottles. Just sayin.

In a variety of flavours: http://vaporcenter.be/nld/search/q:fantasi

https://www.aroma-company.be/en/fantasi-orange-ice-30-in-60.html
https://shop.alpha-steam.com/neues/2159/fantasi-orange

At last someone has managed to scour the internet and has found a source for the soda bottle. Strange that it seems so hard to find.

Note that the logo looks nothing like the original Fanta style logo (arguments that it looks anything like Fanta now fall by the wayside) nor does it look like the revised Fantasi logo. Is it made by the manufacturer of Fantasi? Is it a cloned flavour concentrate?

The soda bottle is a really bad idea anyway. I wonder who is responsible for it? I mean, there is no child proof cap on that bottle, so I can't believe Fantasi, who aside from some shady branding a while back have always used child proof caps, are marketing it in Europe.

It looks like a cloned DIY kit to me.

 

[speedfreek67]

The OP mentions that the packaging might be confused with a pop bottle, doesnt matter which country it is in, how you educate your kids, at what price it is, Brexit, or anything else... IT CAN BE CONFUSED...and this will only bring bad press....

Yes, we are in agreement about the soda bottle. It is a really bad idea. The question is, who do we contact and tell off?

 

[Rukaguy]

At last someone has managed to scour the internet and has found a source for the soda bottle. Strange that it seems so hard to find.

Note that the logo looks nothing like the original Fanta style logo (arguments that it looks anything like Fanta now fall by the wayside) nor does it look like the revised Fantasi logo. Is it made by the manufacturer of Fantasi? Is it a cloned flavour concentrate?

The soda bottle is a really bad idea anyway. I wonder who is responsible for it? I mean, there is no child proof cap on that bottle, so I can't believe Fantasi, who aside from some shady branding a while back have always used child proof caps, are marketing it in Europe.

It looks like a cloned DIY kit to me.

It could be a clone... However, it's still being sold by someone...

I think the bottle style is unhelpful for a number of reasons (and actually just designs in general that garner these sorts of criticisms)

1. It may not be 'marketed at' children, but, alas our little friends can pick up nearly anything and ingest, place in their mouth or spill it.
2. To this end, it is NOT helpful for the vaping community because so much scrutiny is put on TPD compliance, non-child/adolescent marketing etc that it takes one person to, as you put it, 'scour the internet' and find pictures like this to 'prove' that "all juice manufacturers target children" - which just isn't the case. (I actually just googled "Fantasi DIY orange" or something similar) Recently in the UK we have had memo's regarding washing liquitab style things being eaten by children to fatal effect - so it's not just eliquid.
3. Any bottle with no child proof lock will come under criticism by anti-vaping lobbyists.
4. It takes just one image like this to ruin a lot of the hard work done by the pro-vaping network to reassure people that vaping is 'not marketed at children' - one just needs to think of how tabloid press can use things like this.

TLDR - bottles like this cause bad press, could be confused with a bottle of 'pop' by a smaller child or FruitShoot etc and at worst cause harm to someone.

It would just be very annoying, if, because of stuff like this and flagrant branding, the Govt decided to go the same way as cigarettes and ban branding and just have blank boxes.... it's only a matter of time before someone persuades them Juice vendors are irresponsible advertisers...

 

[speedfreek67]

I have been in agreement that the soda style bottle is the issue, right from the beginning. The branding part, the "marketing at children" part etc is also a problem, because a lot of manufacturers, like Vampire Vape for instance, use childish branding, but I have said all along that the problem is with the soda bottle.

Fantasi is normally sold in standard dripper bottles, like most other liquids. Not a problem.

The problem is finding out whether the soda bottle is made by Fantasi, in which case we should complain to them, or whether it is being made by someone else.

I said in my first post that I didn't think Fantasi were responsible, that it looks like a fake. So who should we be talking to?

 

[Simon G]

I have been in agreement that the soda style bottle is the issue, right from the beginning. The branding part, the "marketing at children" part etc is also a problem, because a lot of manufacturers, like Vampire Vape for instance, use childish branding, but I have said all along that the problem is with the soda bottle.

Fantasi is normally sold in standard dripper bottles, like most other liquids. Not a problem.

The problem is finding out whether the soda bottle is made by Fantasi, in which case we should complain to them, or whether it is being made by someone else.

I said in my first post that I didn't think Fantasi were responsible, that it looks like a fake. So who should we be talking to?

If you want to roll with this, email that picture or that link to Fantasi and ask them if it is one of their products.... that would seem to be the first move.

 

[icepie]

Are you sure about that?

Yes.

Next.

 

[icepie]

Would that be a bad thing?

I think that is the future and the sooner the better.

The clandestine way in which cigarettes have to be sold now is the government's way of saying "We're not going to ban it because we're getting a nice cut, but we want to shame you because we're nasty bastards." Give them enough excuses and they'll do the same to us. It may, as you say, be inevitable but I'd rather it be avoided as long as possible and irresponsible branding isn't going to help.