Accurate Flavour Weight Measurements

[zouzounaki]

I can't really agree with that. Beer and fizzy drinks are the most obvious examples of liquids with gas in them. On occasions I've often taken the top off something or other and noticed an unpleasant smell from built up gas in certain things.

I'm too inexperienced with mixing to know how much truth there is in this idea when it comes to e-liquids but I definitely think it's worth experimenting to find out.

Beer and fizzy drinks are fizzy, though. They are either fermented with sugar added to create fizziness or have bubbles of carbon dioxide deliberately added using a machine. Eliquid isn’t fizzy and definitely shouldn’t be fermenting so there is nothing that would create bubbles of gas inside the liquid. Bubbles will appear in the liquid if you shake it very vigorously, but they will disappear very quickly without even having to remove the lid.

The idea of evaporating alcohol might make a little bit of sense (some concentrates have alcohol in them) but then some people deliberately add vodka to their home brew liquid and I don’t think it adds a harsh taste. Which would suggest alcohol isn’t what’s causing the harsh taste.

 

[MarylinC37]

No doubt there are numerous possibilities for what causes it. I've seen certain flavours mention that they don't contain various diketones. While I'm sure they're perfectly safe to vape, maybe something like that is what causes that chemical taste. I think one good indication would be if the smell of the liquid changes while it's steeping. Whatever it is, it's worth trying different things to figure out how to fix it.

 

[Rickster]

Beer and fizzy drinks are fizzy, though. They are either fermented with sugar added to create fizziness or have bubbles of carbon dioxide deliberately added using a machine. Eliquid isn’t fizzy and definitely shouldn’t be fermenting so there is nothing that would create bubbles of gas inside the liquid. Bubbles will appear in the liquid if you shake it very vigorously, but they will disappear very quickly without even having to remove the lid.

The idea of evaporating alcohol might make a little bit of sense (some concentrates have alcohol in them) but then some people deliberately add vodka to their home brew liquid and I don’t think it adds a harsh taste. Which would suggest alcohol isn’t what’s causing the harsh taste.

Lol.... the beer and fizzy drinks were used as an obvious example, not to be taken literally, you need to go fur another wank

 

[zouzounaki]

Lol.... the beer and fizzy drinks were used as an obvious example, not to be taken literally, you need to go fur another wank

I know that, but the fact that they are fizzy, and contain gas, is the reason they give off gas. Water (non carbonated) or something would have been a better example to think about.

@MarylinC37 is just starting out with their diy rickster, and i assume from their posts interested in discussing this stuff and thinking about it. You are as well, or you wouldn’t be reading it, i’m sure.

The thing about gas, is volatile substances in the concentrate might evaporate out, but would they not stay in the space at the top of the bottle? I’m just not convinced.

@MarylinC37 diacetyl has a very distinctive taste, it’s not really harsh to me but does get smoother with a steep, if you ever try it you’ll recognise it easily in premixed concentrates. It also has an interesting way of steeping, the colour change can be recognisable.

 

[Rickster]

I know that, but the fact that they are fizzy, and contain gas, is the reason they give off gas. Water (non carbonated) or something would have been a better example to think about.

@MarylinC37 is just starting out with their diy rickster, and i assume from their posts interested in discussing this stuff and thinking about it. You are as well, or you wouldn’t be reading it, i’m sure.

The thing about gas, is volatile substances in the concentrate might evaporate out, but would they not stay in the space at the top of the bottle? I’m just not convinced.

@MarylinC37 diacetyl has a very distinctive taste, it’s not really harsh to me but does get smoother with a steep, if you ever try it you’ll recognise it easily in premixed concentrates. It also has an interesting way of steeping, the colour change can be recognisable.

I know, who knows what goes on at molecule combustion level with mixing all em different flavours n all, for sure though if its harsh (some menthols are included) leaving it to breath with the cap off for a wee hour helps... that is my experience.
Like taste harshness will be subjective to a degree.
So if you make up a mix n its rough as fk, try it n see.

 

[Mr Ripple]

Lol.... the beer and fizzy drinks were used as an obvious example, not to be taken literally, you need to go fur another wank

Sounds like he's replying to what he has interpreted the post to read and not whats actually written again? No?

 

[Richard Winter]

I know that, but the fact that they are fizzy, and contain gas, is the reason they give off gas. Water (non carbonated) or something would have been a better example to think about.

@MarylinC37 is just starting out with their diy rickster, and i assume from their posts interested in discussing this stuff and thinking about it. You are as well, or you wouldn’t be reading it, i’m sure.

The thing about gas, is volatile substances in the concentrate might evaporate out, but would they not stay in the space at the top of the bottle? I’m just not convinced.

@MarylinC37 diacetyl has a very distinctive taste, it’s not really harsh to me but does get smoother with a steep, if you ever try it you’ll recognise it easily in premixed concentrates. It also has an interesting way of steeping, the colour change can be recognisable.

Isnt Diacetyl banned in flavour concentrates in the UK?

 

[Mr Ripple]

Isnt Diacetyl banned in flavour concentrates in the UK?

Nope

 

[Richard Winter]

Sounds like he's replying to what he has interpreted the post to read and not whats actually written again? No?

Should i consult my notes???

 

[Richard Winter]

Nope

Really? I thought this was associated with Popcorn lung in the early days. I remember reading that the UK has banned flavours that contain Diacetyl.