Best single coil build for flavour?

[SpennyStooge]

Kanthal 26, 27 or 28 awg, for MTL. Nice and simple and easy to build with. Design classic. No Juggernauts in my tanks.

 

[petethesteep]

I had a quick search of the MTL forum and whilst there is not much on this subject, what I did find seemed to suggest that Plain Kanthal was probably the best for MTL.
I still wonder though, if I used a different gauge Kanthal that could produce a longer/wider coil, therefore, producing more contact with coil and juice, would this produce better flavour, or would it simply produce more vapour? I'm confused lol.

 

[petethesteep]

Kanthal 26, 27 or 28 awg, for MTL. Nice and simple and easy to build with. Design classic. No Juggernauts in my tanks.

Hello mate, i posted above just as you posted, any comments on what i said above? thanks.

 

[SpennyStooge]

I had a quick search of the MTL forum and whilst there is not much on this subject, what I did find seemed to suggest that Plain Kanthal was probably the best for MTL.
I still wonder though, if I used a different gauge Kanthal that could produce a longer/wider coil, therefore, producing more contact with coil and juice, would this produce better flavour, or would it simply produce more vapour? I'm confused lol.

By it's very nature, there'd be far less vapour produced in an MTL tank, using a lower VG liquid. MTL is solely about the flavour and the throat hit.

But, yeah.... I think you'll find most MTL users appreciate the simplicity of a simple Kanthal coil and the results it produces.

Ahhh.... I see what you mean now. You're talking about, say, a 24awg Kanthal coil with an id of 3.5mm, for example, in a DL type tank? I couldn't answer that.

 

[petethesteep]

By it's very nature, there'd be far less vapour produced in an MTL tank, using a lower VG liquid. MTL is solely about the flavour and the throat hit.

But, yeah.... I think you'll find most MTL users appreciate the simplicity of a simple Kanthal coil and the results it produces.

Ahhh.... I see what you mean now. You're talking about, say, a 24awg Kanthal coil with an id of 3.5mm, for example, in a DL type tank? I couldn't answer that.

Thanks for the reply mate.
I simply mean if I used a different gauge Kanthal which allowed for a longer coil to be produced would this up the flavour a little bit, due to there being more surface contact between coil and juice? Any ideas?

cheers,

Pete.

 

[Mr Ripple]

You might benefit from vaporizing the juice at a higher or lower temperature.
Varying temperatures can mute or exaggerate some of the notes in juices.

Adjust what you are using by removing a wrap and upping the watts a little to compensate and see if it's moving in the right direction.

 

[Simon G]

Thanks for the reply mate.
I simply mean if I used a different gauge Kanthal which allowed for a longer coil to be produced would this up the flavour a little bit, due to there being more surface contact between coil and juice? Any ideas?

cheers,

Pete.

I think depends on the tank.. if it only has a small deck and a small airflow hole in the centre of the coil or if it has a larger deck and a wider slot. I'm a firm believer in making a coil to fit the deck/airflow/tank. I don't usually find any benefit to cramming a bigger coil (in diameter or length) into a small deck that isn't designed for a coil of that size. ... or putting a tiny little coil in a larger deck. For me getting those things 'right' are far more important than the resistance.

 

[SpennyStooge]

Well..... I've just built 3 atty's using Kanthal and me hands are like sodding pin cushions.

 

[memzey]

I think depends on the tank.. if it only has a small deck and a small airflow hole in the centre of the coil or if it has a larger deck and a wider slot. I'm a firm believer in making a coil to fit the deck/airflow/tank. I don't usually find any benefit to cramming a bigger coil (in diameter or length) into a small deck that isn't designed for a coil of that size. ... or putting a tiny little coil in a larger deck. For me getting those things 'right' are far more important than the resistance.

This^^^^. All day long this.

When/if you get into building your own coils it becomes possible to configure a build to meet the needs of your atty. For example, I’m chuffing away on a Hadaly at the moment which has a very different type of coil in it to those which I’ve put in my Occula or Asgard mini. Totally different air flows and decks. The Occula needs really beefy coils whereas the Hadaly is only 22mm and you need to be more careful of what you put in there. The Asgard is more forgiving in that respect but doesn’t have the clamping capacity of the Occula and has more refined airflow. The pic in my avatar is what’s in my Occula where as I think I have four core aliens in my Asgard (I’ve just made a set of five core aliens I will probably try in there - 5*30g/38g). I really wish I could help more on MTL configurations but I just don’t vape that way so have no experience to offer at all. I have read that micro-claptons work well for that style of vaping though, perhaps give them a go?

 

[petethesteep]

I think depends on the tank.. if it only has a small deck and a small airflow hole in the centre of the coil or if it has a larger deck and a wider slot. I'm a firm believer in making a coil to fit the deck/airflow/tank. I don't usually find any benefit to cramming a bigger coil (in diameter or length) into a small deck that isn't designed for a coil of that size. ... or putting a tiny little coil in a larger deck. For me getting those things 'right' are far more important than the resistance.

Thanks for the advice Simon, it's appreciated. Just out of interest I use an old Ultron Corrola V1.5 for work would you class this as a "small" tank. It looks to me like it could take more than the six wraps of 28 gauge 3mm ID that I currently have on it.

cheers,

Pete.